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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
	"Luis Claudio R. Goncalves" <lclaudio@uudg.org>,
	balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	williams@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] oom-kill: give the dying task a higher priority
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 15:35:30 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100531152424.739D.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimg3PuUAmUUib2pdXNyEeniccLSCEvAm9jtKNji@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

> Hi, Kosaki.
> 
> On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 12:59 PM, KOSAKI Motohiro
> <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> >> oom-killer: give the dying task rt priority (v3)
> >>
> >> Give the dying task RT priority so that it can be scheduled quickly and die,
> >> freeing needed memory.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Luis Claudio R. GonA?alves <lgoncalv@redhat.com>
> >
> > Almostly acceptable to me. but I have two requests,
> >
> > - need 1) force_sig() 2)sched_setscheduler() order as Oleg mentioned
> > - don't boost priority if it's in mem_cgroup_out_of_memory()
> 
> Why do you want to not boost priority if it's path of memcontrol?
> 
> If it's path of memcontrol and CONFIG_CGROUP_MEM_RES_CTLR is enabled,
> mem_cgroup_out_of_memory will select victim task in memcg.
> So __oom_kill_task's target task would be in memcg, I think.

Yep.
But priority boost naturally makes CPU starvation for out of the group
processes.
It seems to break cgroup's isolation concept.

> As you and memcg guys don't complain this, I would be missing something.
> Could you explain it? :)

So, My points are, 

1) Usually priority boost is wrong idea. It have various side effect, but
   system wide OOM is one of exception. In such case, all tasks aren't 
   runnable, then, the downside is acceptable.
2) memcg have OOM notification mechanism. If the admin need priority boost,
   they can do it by their OOM-daemon.

Thanks.


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  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-31  6:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-27 18:04 Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-27 18:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-05-28  2:54   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-28  3:51     ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-28  4:33       ` Balbir Singh
2010-05-28  4:46         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-28  5:30           ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28  5:39             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-28  5:50               ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28  5:59                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-28  7:52                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 12:53                   ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-28 14:06                     ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 14:20                       ` Balbir Singh
2010-05-28 15:03                         ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 14:36                       ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-28 15:12                         ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 15:21                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-28 15:35                             ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 15:28                           ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-28 15:45                             ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 16:48                               ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-29  3:59                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-31  2:15                                   ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-31  5:06                                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31  6:35                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2010-05-31  7:05                                       ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31  7:25                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-31  9:30                                           ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-30 15:09                                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31  0:21                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-31  5:01                                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31  5:04                                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-31  5:46                                       ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31  5:54                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-31  6:09                                           ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31  6:51                                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-31 10:33                                               ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31 13:52                                               ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-31 23:50                                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-01 17:35                                                   ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-06-01 20:49                                                     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 13:54                                                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-02 14:20                                                         ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-06-02 21:11                                                         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 23:36                                                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-03  0:52                                                             ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-03  7:50                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-03 20:32                                                             ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01  8:19                                                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-01 18:36                                                   ` David Rientjes
2010-05-28  6:27           ` Balbir Singh
2010-05-28  6:34             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-28  6:38             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-28 15:53       ` Peter Zijlstra

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