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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Zan Lynx <zlynx@acm.org>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, lwoodman@redhat.com,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: RFC: dirty_ratio back to 40%
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 10:11:59 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100521100943.1E4D.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BF5D875.3030900@acm.org>

> > So, I'd prefer to restore the default rather than both Redhat and SUSE apply exactly
> > same distro specific patch. because we can easily imazine other users will face the same
> > issue in the future.
> 
> On desktop systems the low dirty limits help maintain interactive feel. 
> Users expect applications that are saving data to be slow. They do not 
> like it when every application in the system randomly comes to a halt 
> because of one program stuffing data up to the dirty limit.

really?
Do you mean our per-task dirty limit wouldn't works?

If so, I think we need fix it. IOW sane per-task dirty limitation seems independent issue 
from per-system dirty limit.


> The cause and effect for the system slowdown is clear when the dirty 
> limit is low. "I saved data and now the system is slow until it is 
> done." When the dirty page ratio is very high, the cause and effect is 
> disconnected. "I was just web surfing and the system came to a halt."
> 
> I think we should expect server admins to do more tuning than desktop 
> users, so the default limits should stay low in my opinion.


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  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-21  1:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-20 11:20 Larry Woodman
2010-05-20 12:29 ` Heinz Diehl
2010-05-20 13:47   ` Richard Kennedy
2010-05-20 23:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-21  0:48   ` Zan Lynx
2010-05-21  1:11     ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2010-05-21 16:00       ` Jan Kara
2010-05-24 19:50     ` Ric Wheeler
2010-05-21 15:50   ` Jan Kara
2010-05-21  6:18 ` David Miller
2010-06-08 18:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-08 19:01   ` Larry Woodman

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