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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm,migration: Fix race between shift_arg_pages and rmap_walk by guaranteeing rmap_walk finds PTEs created within the temporary stack
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 09:32:41 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100510093241.420743a8.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100509192145.GI4859@csn.ul.ie>

On Sun, 9 May 2010 20:21:45 +0100
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:

> On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 07:12:59PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 7 May 2010, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> > > 
> > > IIUC, move_page_tables() may call "page table allocation" and it cannot be
> > > done under spinlock.
> > 
> > Bah. It only does a "alloc_new_pmd()", and we could easily move that out 
> > of the loop and pre-allocate the pmd's.
> > 
> > If that's the only reason, then it's a really weak one, methinks.
> > 
> 
> It turns out not to be easy to the preallocating of PUDs, PMDs and PTEs
> move_page_tables() needs.  To avoid overallocating, it has to follow the same
> logic as move_page_tables duplicating some code in the process. The ugliest
> aspect of all is passing those pre-allocated pages back into move_page_tables
> where they need to be passed down to such functions as __pte_alloc. It turns
> extremely messy.
> 
> I stopped working on it about half way through as it was already too ugly
> to live and would have similar cost to Kamezawa's much more straight-forward
> approach of using move_vma().
> 
> While using move_vma is straight-forward and solves the problem, it's
> not as cheap as Andrea's solution. Andrea allocates a temporary VMA and
> puts it on a list and very little else. It didn't show up any problems
> in microbenchmarks. Calling move_vma does a lot more work particularly in
> copy_vma and this slows down exec.
> 
> With Kamezawa's patch, kernbench was fine on wall time but in System Time,
> it slowed by up 1.48% in comparison to Andrea's slowing up by 0.64%[1].
> 
> aim9 was slowed as well. Kamezawa's slowed by 2.77% where Andrea's reported
> faster by 2.58%. While AIM9 is flaky and these figures are barely outside
> the noise, calling move_vma() is obviously more expensive.
> 

Thank you for testing.


> While my solution at http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/4/30/198 is cheapest as it
> does not touch exec() at all, is_vma_temporary_stack() could be broken in
> the future if any of the assumptions it makes change.
> 
> So what you have is an inverse relationship between magic and
> performance. Mine has the most magic and is fastest. Kamezawa's has the
> least magic but slowest and Andrea has the goldilocks factor. Which do
> you prefer?
> 

I like the fastest one ;)

Thanks,
-Kame

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-05-10  0:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-06 23:20 [PATCH 0/2] Fix migration races in rmap_walk() V7 Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 23:20 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm,migration: Prevent rmap_walk_[anon|ksm] seeing the wrong VMA information Mel Gorman
2010-05-07  0:56   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-07 16:26     ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-08 15:39   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-05-08 17:02     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-08 18:04       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-05-08 19:51         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-09 19:23     ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 23:20 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,migration: Fix race between shift_arg_pages and rmap_walk by guaranteeing rmap_walk finds PTEs created within the temporary stack Mel Gorman
2010-05-07  1:40   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-07  1:57     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-07  2:12       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-07  4:19         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-07 14:18           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-09 19:21         ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-09 19:56           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-09 20:06             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-09 20:20               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-10  0:40             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-10  1:30               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-10  1:32                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-10  1:40                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-10  1:49                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-10 13:24                     ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-10 23:55                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-10  0:42             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-10 14:02               ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-10 13:49             ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-10  0:32           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2010-05-07  9:16     ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-07  8:13 ` [PATCH 0/2] Fix migration races in rmap_walk() V7 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-05-06 15:33 [PATCH 0/2] Fix migration races in rmap_walk() V6 Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 15:33 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,migration: Fix race between shift_arg_pages and rmap_walk by guaranteeing rmap_walk finds PTEs created within the temporary stack Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 13:14 [PATCH 0/2] Fix migration races in rmap_walk() V5 Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 13:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,migration: Fix race between shift_arg_pages and rmap_walk by guaranteeing rmap_walk finds PTEs created within the temporary stack Mel Gorman

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