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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm,migration: Prevent rmap_walk_[anon|ksm] seeing the wrong VMA information
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 15:25:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100506142531.GB8704@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1005060707050.901@i5.linux-foundation.org>

On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 07:15:31AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 6 May 2010, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > > 
> > > What makes this ok is the fact that it must be running under the RCU read 
> > > lock, and anon_vma's thus cannot be released.
> > 
> > This is very subtle in itself. RCU guarantees that the anon_vma exists
> > but does it guarantee that it's the same one we expect and that it
> > hasn't been freed and reused?
> 
> Nothing. And we shouldn't care.
> 
> If it's been freed and re-used, then all the anon_vma's (and vma's) 
> associated with the original anon_vma (and page) have been free'd.
> 
> And that, in turn, means that we don't really need to lock anything at 
> all. The fact that we end up locking an anon_vma that _used_ to be the 
> root anon_vma is immaterial - the lock won't _help_, but it shouldn't hurt 
> either, since it's still a valid spinlock.
> 

I can't see any problem with the logic.

> Now, the above is only true as far as the anon_vma itself is concerned. 
> It's entirely possible that any _other_ data structures would need to be 
> double-checked after getting the lock. For example, is the _page_ still 
> associated with that anon_vma? But that's an external issue as far as the 
> anon_vma locking is concerned - presumably the 'rmap_walk()' caller will 
> have made sure that the page itself is stable somehow.
> 

It does, by having the page locked as it performs the walk.

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-06 14:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-05 13:14 [PATCH 0/2] Fix migration races in rmap_walk() V5 Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 13:14 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm,migration: Prevent rmap_walk_[anon|ksm] seeing the wrong VMA information Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 14:34   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-05 14:56     ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 15:31       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-05 15:54         ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 16:13           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-05-05 19:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-05 19:57               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-05-21  0:27               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-05-06 10:37             ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 17:34           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-05 17:57             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-05 18:14             ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 18:34               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-06 11:03                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 13:40             ` Rik van Riel
2010-05-06 13:45               ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 17:53         ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-05 18:02           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-05 18:17             ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06  0:22             ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06  0:42               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-06 10:02                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 14:15                   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-06 14:25                     ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2010-05-06  9:47               ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-06  9:54                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 10:01                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-06 10:10                     ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 14:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-06 15:59                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-06  7:38   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-06  9:46     ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 23:52       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-07  5:49         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-05 13:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm,migration: Fix race between shift_arg_pages and rmap_walk by guaranteeing rmap_walk finds PTEs created within the temporary stack Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 15:33 [PATCH 0/2] Fix migration races in rmap_walk() V6 Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 15:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm,migration: Prevent rmap_walk_[anon|ksm] seeing the wrong VMA information Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 15:44   ` Rik van Riel
2010-05-06 15:51     ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 15:59   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-06 17:07     ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 23:20 [PATCH 0/2] Fix migration races in rmap_walk() V7 Mel Gorman
2010-05-06 23:20 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm,migration: Prevent rmap_walk_[anon|ksm] seeing the wrong VMA information Mel Gorman
2010-05-07  0:56   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-07 16:26     ` Mel Gorman
2010-05-08 15:39   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-05-08 17:02     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-08 18:04       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2010-05-08 19:51         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-05-09 19:23     ` Mel Gorman

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