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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:52:32 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100414155222.D150.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100414031205.GE2493@dastard>

> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:36:59AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 08:39:29PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > > > FWIW, the biggest problem here is that I have absolutely no clue on
> > > > how to test what the impact on lumpy reclaim really is. Does anyone
> > > > have a relatively simple test that can be run to determine what the
> > > > impact is?
> > > 
> > > So, can you please run two workloads concurrently?
> > >  - Normal IO workload (fio, iozone, etc..)
> > >  - echo $NUM > /proc/sys/vm/nr_hugepages
> > 
> > What do I measure/observe/record that is meaningful?
> 
> So, a rough as guts first pass - just run a large dd (8 times the
> size of memory - 8GB file vs 1GB RAM) and repeated try to allocate
> the entire of memory in huge pages (500) every 5 seconds. The IO
> rate is roughly 100MB/s, so it takes 75-85s to complete the dd.
> 
> The script:
> 
> $ cat t.sh
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/nr_hugepages
> echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
> 
> dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/scratch/test bs=1024k count=8000 > /dev/null 2>&1 &
> 
> (
> for i in `seq 1 1 20`; do
>         sleep 5
>         /usr/bin/time --format="wall %e" sh -c "echo 500 > /proc/sys/vm/nr_hugepages" 2>&1
>         grep HugePages_Total /proc/meminfo
> done
> ) | awk '
>         /wall/ { wall += $2; cnt += 1 }
>         /Pages/ { pages[cnt] = $2 }
>         END { printf "average wall time %f\nPages step: ", wall / cnt ;
>                 for (i = 1; i <= cnt; i++) {
>                         printf "%d ", pages[i];
>                 }
>         }'
> ----
> 
> And the output looks like:
> 
> $ sudo ./t.sh
> average wall time 0.954500
> Pages step: 97 101 101 121 173 173 173 173 173 173 175 194 195 195 202 220 226 419 423 426
> $
> 
> Run 50 times in a loop, and the outputs averaged, the existing lumpy
> reclaim resulted in:
> 
> dave@test-1:~$ cat current.txt | awk -f av.awk
> av. wall = 0.519385 secs
> av Pages step: 192 228 242 255 265 272 279 284 289 294 298 303 307 322 342 366 383 401 412 420
> 
> And with my patch that disables ->writepage:
> 
> dave@test-1:~$ cat no-direct.txt | awk -f av.awk
> av. wall = 0.554163 secs
> av Pages step: 231 283 310 316 323 328 336 340 345 351 356 359 364 377 388 397 413 423 432 439
> 
> Basically, with my patch lumpy reclaim was *substantially* more
> effective with only a slight increase in average allocation latency
> with this test case.
> 
> I need to add a marker to the output that records when the dd
> completes, but from monitoring the writeback rates via PCP, they
> were in the balllpark of 85-100MB/s for the existing code, and
> 95-110MB/s with my patch.  Hence it improved both IO throughput and
> the effectiveness of lumpy reclaim.
> 
> On the down side, I did have an OOM killer invocation with my patch
> after about 150 iterations - dd failed an order zero allocation
> because there were 455 huge pages allocated and there were only
> _320_ available pages for IO, all of which were under IO. i.e. lumpy
> reclaim worked so well that the machine got into order-0 page
> starvation.
> 
> I know this is a simple test case, but it shows much better results
> than I think anyone (even me) is expecting...

Ummm...

Probably, I have to say I'm sorry. I guess my last mail give you
a misunderstand.
To be honest, I'm not interest this artificial non fragmentation case.
The above test-case does 1) discard all cache 2) fill pages by streaming
io. then, it makes artificial "file offset neighbor == block neighbor == PFN neighbor"
situation. then, file offset order writeout by flusher thread can make
PFN contenious pages effectively.

Why I dont interest it? because lumpy reclaim is a technique for
avoiding external fragmentation mess. IOW, it is for avoiding worst
case. but your test case seems to mesure best one.



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  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-14  6:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-13  0:17 Dave Chinner
2010-04-13  8:31 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-13 10:29   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-13 11:39     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-13 14:36       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  3:12         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  6:52           ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2010-04-15  1:56             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  6:52         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14  7:36           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-13  9:58 ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-13 11:19   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-13 19:34     ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-13 20:20       ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14  1:40         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  4:59           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-14  5:41             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  5:54               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14  6:13                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  7:19                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  9:42                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-14 10:01                       ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14 10:07                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-14 10:16                           ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  7:06                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  6:52           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14  7:28             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  8:51               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15  1:34                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  4:09                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:11                     ` [PATCH 1/4] vmscan: delegate pageout io to flusher thread if current is kswapd KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  8:05                       ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-15  8:17                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  8:26                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:30                             ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-15 17:24                               ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-20  2:56                               ` Ying Han
2010-04-15  9:32                         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  9:41                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 17:27                           ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-15 23:33                             ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15 23:41                               ` Suleiman Souhlal
2010-04-16  9:50                               ` Alan Cox
2010-04-17  3:06                                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  8:18                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:31                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 11:26                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:13                     ` [PATCH 2/4] vmscan: kill prev_priority completely KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:14                     ` [PATCH 3/4] vmscan: move priority variable into scan_control KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:15                     ` [PATCH 4/4] vmscan: delegate page cleaning io to flusher thread if VM pressure is low KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  4:35                     ` [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  6:32                       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  6:44                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  6:58                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  6:20                     ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15  6:35                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15  8:54                         ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-15 10:21                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:23                             ` [PATCH 1/4] vmscan: simplify shrink_inactive_list() KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 13:15                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 15:01                                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15 15:44                                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 16:54                                     ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15 23:40                                       ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-16  7:13                                         ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-16 14:57                                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-17  2:37                                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-16 14:55                                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 18:22                                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-04-16  9:39                                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 10:24                             ` [PATCH 2/4] [cleanup] mm: introduce free_pages_prepare KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 13:33                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 10:24                             ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: introduce free_pages_bulk KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 13:46                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 10:26                             ` [PATCH 4/4] vmscan: replace the pagevec in shrink_inactive_list() with list KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-15 10:28                   ` [PATCH] mm: disallow direct reclaim page writeback Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 13:42                     ` Chris Mason
2010-04-15 17:50                       ` tytso
2010-04-16 15:05                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-19 15:15                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-19 17:38                           ` Chris Mason
2010-04-16  4:14                     ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-16 15:14                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-18  0:32                         ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-18 19:05                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-04-18 16:31                             ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-18 19:35                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-04-18 19:11                             ` Sorin Faibish
2010-04-18 19:10                           ` Sorin Faibish
2010-04-18 21:30                             ` James Bottomley
2010-04-18 23:34                               ` Sorin Faibish
2010-04-19  3:08                               ` tytso
2010-04-19  0:35                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-19  0:49                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-04-19  1:08                               ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-19  4:32                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-04-19 15:20                         ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-23  1:06                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-23 10:50                             ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-15 14:57                   ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-15  2:37                 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-15  2:43                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-16 23:56                     ` Johannes Weiner
2010-04-14  6:52         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14 10:06         ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-14 11:20           ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14 12:15             ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-14 12:32               ` Alan Cox
2010-04-14 12:34                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-14 13:23             ` Mel Gorman
2010-04-14 14:07               ` Chris Mason
2010-04-14  0:24 ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-14  4:44   ` Dave Chinner
2010-04-14  7:54     ` Minchan Kim
2010-04-16  1:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-04-16  4:18   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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