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From: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Wu, Fengguang" <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH]vmscan: handle underflow for get_scan_ratio
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:27:00 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100414012700.GA10450@sli10-desk.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100413175414.D110.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 04:55:52PM +0800, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > > > I'm surprised this ack a bit. Rik, do you have any improvement plan about
> > > > streaming io detection logic?
> > > > I think the patch have a slightly marginal benefit, it help to<1% scan
> > > > ratio case. but it have big regression, it cause streaming io (e.g. backup
> > > > operation) makes tons swap.
> > > 
> > > How?  From the description I believe it took 16GB in
> > > a zone before we start scanning anon pages when
> > > reclaiming at DEF_PRIORITY?
> > > 
> > > Would that casue a problem?
> > 
> > Please remember, 2.6.27 has following +1 scanning modifier.
> > 
> >   zone->nr_scan_active += (zone_page_state(zone, NR_ACTIVE) >> priority) + 1;
> >                                                                          ^^^^
> > 
> > and, early (ano not yet merged) SplitLRU VM has similar +1. likes
> > 
> >          scan = zone_nr_lru_pages(zone, sc, l);
> >          scan >>= priority;
> >          scan = (scan * percent[file]) / 100 + 1;
> >                                              ^^^
> > 
> > We didn't think only one page scanning is not big matter. but it was not
> > correct. we got streaming io bug report. the above +1 makes annoying swap
> > io. because some server need big backup operation rather much much than
> > physical memory size.
> > 
> > example, If vm are dropping 1TB use once pages, 0.1% anon scanning makes
> > 1GB scan. and almost server only have some gigabyte swap although it
> > has >1TB memory.
> > 
> > If my memory is not correct, please correct me.
> > 
> > My point is, greater or smaller than 16GB isn't essential. all patches 
> > should have big worth than the downside. The description said "the impact 
> > sounds not a big deal", nobody disagree it. but it's worth is more little.
> > I don't imagine this patch improve anything.
> 
> And now I've merged this patch into my local vmscan patch queue.
> After solving streaming io issue, I'll put it to mainline.
if the streaming io issue is popular, how about below patch against my last one?
we take priority == DEF_PRIORITY an exception.
 
Index: linux/mm/vmscan.c
===================================================================
--- linux.orig/mm/vmscan.c	2010-04-14 09:03:28.000000000 +0800
+++ linux/mm/vmscan.c	2010-04-14 09:19:56.000000000 +0800
@@ -1629,6 +1629,22 @@ static void get_scan_count(struct zone *
 	fraction[0] = ap;
 	fraction[1] = fp;
 	denominator = ap + fp + 1;
+
+	/*
+	 * memory pressure isn't high, we allow percentage underflow. This
+	 * avoids swap in stream io case.
+	 */
+	if (priority == DEF_PRIORITY) {
+		if (fraction[0] * 99 < fraction[1]) {
+			fraction[0] = 0;
+			fraction[1] = 1;
+			denominator = 1;
+		} else if (fraction[1] * 99 < fraction[0]) {
+			fraction[0] = 1;
+			fraction[1] = 0;
+			denominator = 1;
+		}
+	}
 out:
 	for_each_evictable_lru(l) {
 		int file = is_file_lru(l);

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-14  1:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-30  5:53 Shaohua Li
2010-03-30  6:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-30  6:32   ` Shaohua Li
2010-03-30  6:40     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-30  6:53       ` Shaohua Li
2010-03-30  7:31         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-30  8:13           ` Shaohua Li
2010-03-31  4:53   ` Shaohua Li
2010-03-31  5:38     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-31  5:51       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-03-31  6:00         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-31  6:03           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-01 22:16           ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-02  9:13             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-06  1:22               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06  3:36               ` Rik van Riel
2010-03-31  5:53       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-02  6:50         ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-02  9:14           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-02  9:24             ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-04 14:19               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-06  1:25                 ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-06  1:36                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-06  1:50                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06  2:06                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-06  2:30                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06  2:58                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-06  3:31                           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06  3:40                             ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-06  4:49                               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06  5:09                                 ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-04  0:48           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06  1:27             ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-06  5:03           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06  5:36             ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-09  6:51             ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-09 21:20               ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-09 21:25                 ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-13  1:30                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-13  2:42                     ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-13  7:55                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-13  8:55                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14  1:27                           ` Shaohua Li [this message]
2010-04-15  3:25                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-12  1:57                 ` Shaohua Li
2010-03-31  5:41     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-03-30 10:17 ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-30 10:25   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-30 11:56 ` Balbir Singh

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