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From: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>
To: "Wu, Fengguang" <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH]vmscan: handle underflow for get_scan_ratio
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 09:27:41 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100406012741.GA22749@sli10-desk.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100404004838.GA6390@localhost>

On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 08:48:38AM +0800, Wu, Fengguang wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 02:50:52PM +0800, Li, Shaohua wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 01:53:27PM +0800, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 02:08:53PM +0800, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Commit 84b18490d1f1bc7ed5095c929f78bc002eb70f26 introduces a regression.
> > > > > > > With it, our tmpfs test always oom. The test has a lot of rotated anon
> > > > > > > pages and cause percent[0] zero. Actually the percent[0] is a very small
> > > > > > > value, but our calculation round it to zero. The commit makes vmscan
> > > > > > > completely skip anon pages and cause oops.
> > > > > > > An option is if percent[x] is zero in get_scan_ratio(), forces it
> > > > > > > to 1. See below patch.
> > > > > > > But the offending commit still changes behavior. Without the commit, we scan
> > > > > > > all pages if priority is zero, below patch doesn't fix this. Don't know if
> > > > > > > It's required to fix this too.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Can you please post your /proc/meminfo and reproduce program? I'll digg it.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Very unfortunately, this patch isn't acceptable. In past time, vmscan 
> > > > > > had similar logic, but 1% swap-out made lots bug reports. 
> > > > > if 1% is still big, how about below patch?
> > > > 
> > > > This patch makes a lot of sense than previous. however I think <1% anon ratio
> > > > shouldn't happen anyway because file lru doesn't have reclaimable pages.
> > > > <1% seems no good reclaim rate.
> > > 
> > > Oops, the above mention is wrong. sorry. only 1 page is still too big.
> > > because under streaming io workload, the number of scanning anon pages should
> > > be zero. this is very strong requirement. if not, backup operation will makes
> > > a lot of swapping out.
> > Sounds there is no big impact for the workload which you mentioned with the patch.
> > please see below descriptions.
> > I updated the description of the patch as fengguang suggested.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Commit 84b18490d introduces a regression. With it, our tmpfs test always oom.
> > The test uses a 6G tmpfs in a system with 3G memory. In the tmpfs, there are
> > 6 copies of kernel source and the test does kbuild for each copy. My
> > investigation shows the test has a lot of rotated anon pages and quite few
> > file pages, so get_scan_ratio calculates percent[0] to be zero. Actually
> > the percent[0] shoule be a very small value, but our calculation round it
> > to zero. The commit makes vmscan completely skip anon pages and cause oops.
> > 
> > To avoid underflow, we don't use percentage, instead we directly calculate
> > how many pages should be scaned. In this way, we should get several scan pages
> > for < 1% percent. With this fix, my test doesn't oom any more.
> > 
> > Note, this patch doesn't really change logics, but just increase precise. For
> > system with a lot of memory, this might slightly changes behavior. For example,
> > in a sequential file read workload, without the patch, we don't swap any anon
> > pages. With it, if anon memory size is bigger than 16G, we will say one anon page
> 
>                                                                   see?
Thanks, will send a updated against -mm since we reverted the offending patch.

Thanks,
Shaohua

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-06  1:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-30  5:53 Shaohua Li
2010-03-30  6:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-30  6:32   ` Shaohua Li
2010-03-30  6:40     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-30  6:53       ` Shaohua Li
2010-03-30  7:31         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-30  8:13           ` Shaohua Li
2010-03-31  4:53   ` Shaohua Li
2010-03-31  5:38     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-31  5:51       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-03-31  6:00         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-31  6:03           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-01 22:16           ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-02  9:13             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-06  1:22               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06  3:36               ` Rik van Riel
2010-03-31  5:53       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-02  6:50         ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-02  9:14           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-02  9:24             ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-04 14:19               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-06  1:25                 ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-06  1:36                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-06  1:50                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06  2:06                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-06  2:30                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06  2:58                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-06  3:31                           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06  3:40                             ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-06  4:49                               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06  5:09                                 ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-04  0:48           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06  1:27             ` Shaohua Li [this message]
2010-04-06  5:03           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-06  5:36             ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-09  6:51             ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-09 21:20               ` Andrew Morton
2010-04-09 21:25                 ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-13  1:30                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-13  2:42                     ` Rik van Riel
2010-04-13  7:55                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-13  8:55                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-14  1:27                           ` Shaohua Li
2010-04-15  3:25                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-04-12  1:57                 ` Shaohua Li
2010-03-31  5:41     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-03-30 10:17 ` Minchan Kim
2010-03-30 10:25   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-03-30 11:56 ` Balbir Singh

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