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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org,
	bugme-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org, ant.starikov@gmail.com,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [Bugme-new] [Bug 15618] New: 2.6.18->2.6.32->2.6.33 huge regression in performance
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:27:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100323182735.GA10897@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100323111351.756c8752.akpm@linux-foundation.org>


* Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:34:09 +0100
> Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > It shows a very brutal amount of page fault invoked mmap_sem spinning 
> > overhead.
> > 
> 
> Yes.  Note that we fall off a cliff at nine threads on a 16-way.  As soon as 
> a core gets two threads scheduled onto it?

it's AMD Opterons so no SMT.

My (wild) guess would be that 8 cpus can still do cacheline ping-pong 
reasonably efficiently, but it starts breaking down very seriously with 9 or 
more cores bouncing the same single cache-line.

Breakdowns in scalability are usually very non-linear, for hardware and 
software reasons. '8 threads' sounds like a hw limit to me. From the scheduler 
POV there's no big difference between 8 or 9 CPUs used [this is non-HT] - with 
8 or 7 cores still idle.

	Ingo

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-23 18:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <bug-15618-10286@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
2010-03-23 14:22 ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-23 17:34   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-23 17:45     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-23 17:57       ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 18:00       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-23 18:03         ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 18:21           ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-23 18:25             ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 19:22               ` Robin Holt
2010-03-23 19:30                 ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 19:49                   ` Robin Holt
2010-03-23 19:57                     ` Robin Holt
2010-03-23 19:50                 ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 19:52             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-24 16:40           ` Roland Dreier
2010-03-26  3:24             ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 19:14       ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 19:17         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-23 19:42           ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 19:54         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-23 20:43           ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 23:04             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-23 23:19               ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 23:36               ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-23 23:55                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-24  0:03                   ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-24  2:15                   ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-24  3:00                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-19 18:19                       ` Greg KH
2010-03-23 18:13     ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-23 18:19       ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 18:27       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2010-03-23 21:19       ` Anton Starikov
2010-04-02 18:57   ` Lee Schermerhorn

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