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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org,
	bugme-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org, ant.starikov@gmail.com,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [Bugme-new] [Bug 15618] New: 2.6.18->2.6.32->2.6.33 huge regression in performance
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:00:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100323180002.GA2965@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1003231037410.18017@i5.linux-foundation.org>


* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Mar 2010, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > It shows a very brutal amount of page fault invoked mmap_sem spinning 
> > overhead.
> 
> Isn't this already fixed? It's the same old "x86-64 rwsemaphores are using 
> the shit-for-brains generic version" thing, and it's fixed by
> 
> 	1838ef1 x86-64, rwsem: 64-bit xadd rwsem implementation
> 	5d0b723 x86: clean up rwsem type system
> 	59c33fa x86-32: clean up rwsem inline asm statements

Ah, indeed!

> NOTE! None of those are in 2.6.33 - they were merged afterwards. But they 
> are in 2.6.34-rc1 (and obviously current -git). So Anton would have to 
> compile his own kernel to test his load.

another option is to run the rawhide kernel via something like:

	yum update --enablerepo=development kernel

this will give kernel-2.6.34-0.13.rc1.git1.fc14.x86_64, which has those 
changes included.

OTOH that kernel has debugging [lockdep] enabled so it might not be 
comparable.

> We could mark them as stable material if the load in question is a real load 
> rather than just a test-case. On one of the random page-fault benchmarks the 
> rwsem fix was something like a 400% performance improvement, and it was 
> apparently visible in real life on some crazy SGI "initialize huge heap 
> concurrently on lots of threads" load.
> 
> Side note: the reason the spinlock sucks is because of the fair ticket 
> locks, it really does all the wrong things for the rwsem code. That's why 
> old kernels don't show it - the old unfair locks didn't show the same kind 
> of behavior.

Yeah.

	Ingo

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-23 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <bug-15618-10286@https.bugzilla.kernel.org/>
2010-03-23 14:22 ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-23 17:34   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-23 17:45     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-23 17:57       ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 18:00       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2010-03-23 18:03         ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 18:21           ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-23 18:25             ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 19:22               ` Robin Holt
2010-03-23 19:30                 ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 19:49                   ` Robin Holt
2010-03-23 19:57                     ` Robin Holt
2010-03-23 19:50                 ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 19:52             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-24 16:40           ` Roland Dreier
2010-03-26  3:24             ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 19:14       ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 19:17         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-23 19:42           ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 19:54         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-23 20:43           ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 23:04             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-23 23:19               ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 23:36               ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-23 23:55                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-24  0:03                   ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-24  2:15                   ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-24  3:00                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-19 18:19                       ` Greg KH
2010-03-23 18:13     ` Andrew Morton
2010-03-23 18:19       ` Anton Starikov
2010-03-23 18:27       ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-23 21:19       ` Anton Starikov
2010-04-02 18:57   ` Lee Schermerhorn

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