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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrea Righi <arighi@develer.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
	Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mmotm 0/5] memcg: per cgroup dirty limit (v6)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:25:00 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100311182500.0f3ba994.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1268298865.5279.997.camel@twins>

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:14:25 +0100
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 10:17 +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> > On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:39:13 +0900
> > KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > > > The performance overhead is not so huge in both solutions, but the impact on
> > > > performance is even more reduced using a complicated solution...
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe we can go ahead with the simplest implementation for now and start to
> > > > think to an alternative implementation of the page_cgroup locking and
> > > > charge/uncharge of pages.
> 
> FWIW bit spinlocks suck massive.
> 
> > > 
> > > maybe. But in this 2 years, one of our biggest concerns was the performance.
> > > So, we do something complex in memcg. But complex-locking is , yes, complex.
> > > Hmm..I don't want to bet we can fix locking scheme without something complex.
> > > 
> > But overall patch set seems good (to me.) And dirty_ratio and dirty_background_ratio
> > will give us much benefit (of performance) than we lose by small overheads.
> 
> Well, the !cgroup or root case should really have no performance impact.
> 
> > IIUC, this series affects trgger for background-write-out.
> 
> Not sure though, while this does the accounting the actual writeout is
> still !cgroup aware and can definately impact performance negatively by
> shrinking too much.
> 

Ah, okay, your point is !cgroup (ROOT cgroup case.)
I don't think accounting these file cache status against root cgroup is necessary.


BTW, in other thread, I'm now proposing this style. 
==
+void mem_cgroup_update_stat(struct page *page, int idx, bool charge)
+{
+	struct page_cgroup *pc;
+
+	pc = lookup_page_cgroup(page);
+	if (unlikely(!pc))
+		return;
+
+	if (trylock_page_cgroup(pc)) {
+		__mem_cgroup_update_stat(pc, idx, charge);
+		unlock_page_cgroup(pc);
+	}
+	return;
==

Then, it's not problem that check pc->mem_cgroup is root cgroup or not
without spinlock.
==
void mem_cgroup_update_stat(struct page *page, int idx, bool charge)
{
	pc = lookup_page_cgroup(page);
	if (unlikely(!pc) || mem_cgroup_is_root(pc->mem_cgroup))
		return;	
	...
}
==
This can be handle in the same logic of "lock failure" path.
And we just do ignore accounting.

There are will be no spinlocks....to do more than this,
I think we have to use "struct page" rather than "struct page_cgroup".

Thanks,
-Kame








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  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-11  9:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-09 23:00 Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` [PATCH -mmotm 1/5] memcg: disable irq at page cgroup lock Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` [PATCH -mmotm 2/5] memcg: dirty memory documentation Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` [PATCH -mmotm 3/5] page_cgroup: introduce file cache flags Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` [PATCH -mmotm 4/5] memcg: dirty pages accounting and limiting infrastructure Andrea Righi
2010-03-10 22:23   ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-11 22:27     ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-09 23:00 ` [PATCH -mmotm 5/5] memcg: dirty pages instrumentation Andrea Righi
2010-03-10  1:36 ` [PATCH -mmotm 0/5] memcg: per cgroup dirty limit (v6) Balbir Singh
2010-03-11  0:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-11  1:17   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-11  9:14     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-03-11  9:25       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2010-03-11  9:42         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-11 22:20           ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-12  1:14           ` Daisuke Nishimura
2010-03-12  2:24             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-15 14:48               ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-12 10:07             ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-11 15:03         ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-11 23:27           ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-11 23:52             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-12 10:01               ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-15 14:16             ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-11 23:42           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-12  0:33             ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-15 14:38             ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-17 22:32               ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-11 22:23   ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-11 18:07 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-03-11 23:59   ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-12  0:03     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-03-12  9:58       ` Andrea Righi
2010-03-15 14:41     ` Vivek Goyal

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