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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
	"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] nfs: use 2*rsize readahead size
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:39:40 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100224073940.GJ16175@discord.disaster> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100224061247.GA8421@localhost>

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 02:12:47PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 01:22:15PM +0800, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > What I'm trying to say is that while I agree with your premise that
> > a 7.8MB readahead window is probably far larger than was ever
> > intended, I disagree with your methodology and environment for
> > selecting a better default value.  The default readahead value needs
> > to work well in as many situations as possible, not just in perfect
> > 1:1 client/server environment.
> 
> Good points. It's imprudent to change a default value based on one
> single benchmark. Need to collect more data, which may take time..

Agreed - better to spend time now to get it right...

> > > It sounds silly to have
> > > 
> > >         client_readahead_size > server_readahead_size
> > 
> > I don't think it is  - the client readahead has to take into account
> > the network latency as well as the server latency. e.g. a network
> > with a high bandwidth but high latency is going to need much more
> > client side readahead than a high bandwidth, low latency network to
> > get the same throughput. Hence it is not uncommon to see larger
> > readahead windows on network clients than for local disk access.
> 
> Hmm I wonder if I can simulate a high-bandwidth high-latency network
> with e1000's RxIntDelay/TxIntDelay parameters..

I think netem is the blessed method of emulating different network
behaviours. There's a howto+faq for setting it up here:

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/netem

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-24  7:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-24  2:41 Wu Fengguang
2010-02-24  3:29 ` Dave Chinner
2010-02-24  4:18   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-24  5:22     ` Dave Chinner
2010-02-24  6:12       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-24  7:39         ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2010-02-26  7:49           ` [RFC] nfs: use 4*rsize " Wu Fengguang
2010-03-02  3:10             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-03-02 14:19               ` Trond Myklebust
2010-03-02 17:33                 ` John Stoffel
2010-03-02 18:42                   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-03-03  3:27                     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-04-14 21:22                       ` Dean Hildebrand
2010-03-02 20:14               ` Bret Towe
2010-03-03  1:43                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-24 11:18       ` [RFC] nfs: use 2*rsize " Akshat Aranya
2010-02-25 12:37         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-24  4:24   ` Dave Chinner
2010-02-24  4:33     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-24  4:43     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-02-24  5:24       ` Dave Chinner

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