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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: vedran.furac@gmail.com
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	rientjes@google.com, minchan.kim@gmail.com,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] oom-kill: add lowmem usage aware oom kill handling
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:35:47 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100129003547.521a1da9@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B622AEE.3080906@gmail.com>

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:25:18 +0100
Vedran Furač <vedran.furac@gmail.com> wrote:

> Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> > Am I missing something fundamental here ?
> 
> Yes, the fact linux mm currently sucks. How else would you explain
> possibility of killing random (often root owned) processes using a 5
> lines program started by an ordinary user? 

If you don't want to run with overcommit you turn it off. At that point
processes get memory allocations refused if they can overrun the
theoretical limit, but you generally need more swap (it's one of the
reasons why things like BSD historically have a '3 * memory' rule).

So sounds to me like a problem between the keyboard and screen (coupled
with the fact far too few desktop vendors include tools to easily set
this stuff up)

Alan

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-29  0:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-21  5:59 [PATCH] " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-21 15:18 ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-21 23:48   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-22  0:40     ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-22  1:06       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-21 15:29 ` Balbir Singh
2010-01-21 23:54   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-22  6:23 ` [PATCH v2] " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-22 14:00   ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-22 15:16     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-22 15:41       ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-25  6:15   ` [PATCH v3] " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-26 23:12     ` Andrew Morton
2010-01-26 23:53       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-27  0:19         ` Andrew Morton
2010-01-27  0:58           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-27  6:30             ` [PATCH v4 0/2] " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-27  6:32               ` [PATCH v4 1/2] sysctl clean up vm related variable declarations KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-28  8:54                 ` David Rientjes
2010-01-28 10:30                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-27  6:33               ` [PATCH v4 2/2] oom-kill: add lowmem usage aware oom kill handling v4 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-28  0:12               ` [PATCH v4 0/2] oom-kill: add lowmem usage aware oom kill handling KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-27 23:56             ` [PATCH v3] " David Rientjes
2010-01-28  0:16             ` Alan Cox
2010-01-28  0:26               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-28  0:59               ` David Rientjes
2010-01-29  0:25               ` Vedran Furač
2010-01-29  0:35                 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2010-01-29  0:57                   ` Vedran Furač
2010-01-29 11:03                     ` Alan Cox
2010-01-30 12:33                       ` Vedran Furač
2010-01-30 12:59                         ` Alan Cox
2010-01-30 17:30                           ` Vedran Furač
2010-01-30 17:45                             ` Alan Cox
2010-01-30 18:17                               ` Vedran Furač
2010-01-27 23:46         ` David Rientjes
2010-01-26 23:16     ` Andrew Morton
2010-01-26 23:44       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-27 23:40     ` David Rientjes
2010-01-29 16:11 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-29 16:21 ` Alan Cox
2010-01-29 16:25   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-29 16:30     ` Alan Cox
2010-01-29 16:41       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-01-29 21:07         ` David Rientjes
2010-01-30 12:46           ` Vedran Furač
2010-01-30 22:53             ` David Rientjes
2010-01-31 20:29               ` Vedran Furač
2010-02-01 10:33                 ` David Rientjes
2010-02-01  0:01           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-02-01 10:28             ` David Rientjes
2010-01-29 21:11     ` David Rientjes

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