From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/resume (was: Re: [linux-pm] Memory allocations in .suspend became very unreliable)
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:19:29 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100119101101.5F2E.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201001182155.09727.rjw@sisk.pl>
Hi
> > If suspend need lots memory, we need to make free memory before starting IO
> > suspending, I think.
>
> Suspend as such doesn't need a lot of memory, except for some drivers doing
> things they shouldn't do.
>
> However, there are a few problems that need to be addressed in general.
>
> First, we can't really guarantee that there's a lot of free memory available
> during suspend and some memory allocations are done indirectly, using
> GFP_KERNEL (for example, when new kernel threads are started). If one of
> these is done during suspend and it happens to cause the mm subsystem to
> start I/O on a suspended devices, the kernel will lock up.
>
> Second, there may be a memory allocation in progress when suspend is started
> that causes I/O to happen and races with the suspend process. If the latter
> wins the race, the I/O may be attempted on a suspended device and the kernel
> will lock up.
I think the race happen itself is bad. memory and I/O subsystem can't solve such race
elegantly. These doesn't know enough suspend state knowlege. I think the practical
solution is that higher level design prevent the race happen.
> My patch attempts to avoid these two problems as well as the problem with
> drivers using GFP_KERNEL allocations during suspend which I admit might be
> solved by reworking the drivers.
Agreed. In this case, only drivers change can solve the issue.
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2010-01-17 0:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-17 1:24 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-17 13:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-17 13:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-17 18:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-17 23:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-18 7:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-18 16:17 ` [linux-pm] [RFC][PATCH] PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/resume (was: " Alan Stern
2010-01-18 20:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-19 15:13 ` Alan Stern
2010-01-18 20:56 ` [RFC][PATCH] PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/resume (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-18 21:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-18 23:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-17 13:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-17 16:21 ` [linux-pm] [RFC][PATCH] PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/resume (was: " Minchan Kim
2010-01-17 16:23 ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-18 0:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-18 2:20 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-18 21:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-19 9:15 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-19 20:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-18 17:00 ` [RFC][PATCH] PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/resume (was: Re: [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2010-01-18 20:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-19 9:25 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-19 20:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-20 14:05 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-20 21:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-18 2:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-18 20:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-19 1:19 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2010-01-19 3:19 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-19 9:04 ` Bastien ROUCARIES
2010-01-19 23:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-20 11:31 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-01-20 21:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-01-20 21:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-19 20:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-20 0:33 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-20 21:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-21 0:47 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-21 20:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-21 20:42 ` [linux-pm] [RFC][PATCH] PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/resume (was: " Nigel Cunningham
2010-01-21 21:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-22 1:31 ` [RFC][PATCH] PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/resume (was: Re: [linux-pm] " KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-22 1:42 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-22 10:11 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-01-22 21:19 ` [Update][PATCH] MM / PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/hibernation and resume Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-23 9:29 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-01-25 21:49 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-25 21:52 ` Alexey Starikovskiy
2010-01-30 18:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-30 20:42 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-01-30 20:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-22 20:58 ` [RFC][PATCH] PM: Force GFP_NOIO during suspend/resume (was: Re: [linux-pm] Memory allocations in .suspend became very unreliable) Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-30 15:46 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-01-30 18:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2010-01-30 20:37 ` Maxim Levitsky
2010-02-01 19:51 ` Maxim Levitsky
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