From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Huang Shijie <shijie8@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [resend][PATCH] mm: Restore zone->all_unreclaimable to independence word
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:30:35 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100115113035.0acbb3dc.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100114151959.2c46ee79.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:19:59 -0800
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:32:29 +0800
> Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 03:14:10PM +0800, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 14 Jan 2010, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > commit e815af95 (change all_unreclaimable zone member to flags) chage
> > > > > all_unreclaimable member to bit flag. but It have undesireble side
> > > > > effect.
> > > > > free_one_page() is one of most hot path in linux kernel and increasing
> > > > > atomic ops in it can reduce kernel performance a bit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thus, this patch revert such commit partially. at least
> > > > > all_unreclaimable shouldn't share memory word with other zone flags.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I still think you need to quantify this; saying you don't have a large
> > > > enough of a machine that will benefit from it isn't really a rationale for
> > > > the lack of any data supporting your claim. We should be basing VM
> > > > changes on data, not on speculation that there's a measurable impact
> > > > here.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps you could ask a colleague or another hacker to run a benchmark for
> > > > you so that the changelog is complete?
> > >
> > > ok, fair. although I dislike current unnecessary atomic-ops.
> > > I'll pending this patch until get good data.
> >
> > I think it's a reasonable expectation to help large boxes.
> >
> > What we can do now, is to measure if it hurts mainline SMP
> > boxes. If not, we are set on doing the patch :)
>
> yup, the effects of the change might be hard to measure. Not that one
> shouldn't try!
>
> But sometimes we just have to do a best-effort change based upon theory
> and past experience.
>
> Speaking of which...
>
> : --- a/include/linux/mmzone.h
> : +++ b/include/linux/mmzone.h
> : @@ -341,6 +341,7 @@ struct zone {
> :
> : unsigned long pages_scanned; /* since last reclaim */
> : unsigned long flags; /* zone flags, see below */
> : + int all_unreclaimable; /* All pages pinned */
> :
> : /* Zone statistics */
> : atomic_long_t vm_stat[NR_VM_ZONE_STAT_ITEMS];
>
> Was that the best place to put the field? It adds four bytes of
> padding to the zone, hence is suboptimal from a cache utilisation point
> of view.
>
> It might also be that we can place this field closed in memory to other
> fields which are being manipulated at the same time as
> all_unreclaimable, hm?
>
How about the same line where zone->lock is ?
Thanks,
-Kame
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-15 2:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-14 1:35 KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-14 6:33 ` David Rientjes
2010-01-14 7:14 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-01-14 8:32 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-14 23:19 ` Andrew Morton
2010-01-15 2:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2010-01-15 4:47 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
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