linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mmotm-2009-12-10-17-19] Fix wrong rss count of smaps
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:33:49 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091230103349.1ec71aac.minchan.kim@barrios-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1262117339.3000.2023.camel@calx>

Hi, Matt. 

On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:08:59 -0600
Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 13:46 +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > I am not sure we have to account zero page with file_rss. 
> > Hugh and Kame's new zero page doesn't do it. 
> > As side effect of this, we can prevent innocent process which have a lot
> > of zero page when OOM happens. 
> > (But I am not sure there is a process like this :)
> > So I think not file_rss counting is not bad. 
> > 
> > RSS counting zero page with file_rss helps any program using smaps?
> > If we have to keep the old behavior, I have to remake this patch. 
> > 
> > == CUT_HERE ==
> > 
> > Long time ago, We regards zero page as file_rss and
> > vm_normal_page doesn't return NULL.
> > 
> > But now, we reinstated ZERO_PAGE and vm_normal_page's implementation
> > can return NULL in case of zero page. Also we don't count it with
> > file_rss any more.
> > 
> > Then, RSS and PSS can't be matched.
> > For consistency, Let's ignore zero page in smaps_pte_range.
> > 
> 
> Not counting the zero page in RSS is fine with me. But will this patch
> make the total from smaps agree with get_mm_rss()?

Yes. Anon page fault handler also don't count zero page any more, now. 
Nonetheless, smaps counts it with resident. 

It's point of this patch. 

But I reposted both anon fault handler and here counts it as file_rss
as compatibility with old zero page counting.
Pz, Look at that. :)

> 
> Regarding OOM handling: arguably RSS should play no role in OOM as it's
> practically meaningless in a shared memory system. If we were instead

It's very arguable issue for us that OOM depens on RSS.

> used per-process unshared pages as the metric (aka USS), we'd have a
> much better notion of how much memory an OOM kill would recover.
> Unfortunately, that's not trivial to track as the accounting on COW
> operations is not lightweight.

I think we can approximate it with the size of VM_SHARED vma of process
when VM calculate badness. 
What do you think about it?

Thanks for good idea, Matt. 

> 
> > CC: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
> > ---
> >  fs/proc/task_mmu.c |    3 +--
> >  1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/fs/proc/task_mmu.c b/fs/proc/task_mmu.c
> > index 47c03f4..f277c4a 100644
> > --- a/fs/proc/task_mmu.c
> > +++ b/fs/proc/task_mmu.c
> > @@ -361,12 +361,11 @@ static int smaps_pte_range(pmd_t *pmd, unsigned long addr, unsigned long end,
> >  		if (!pte_present(ptent))
> >  			continue;
> >  
> > -		mss->resident += PAGE_SIZE;
> > -
> >  		page = vm_normal_page(vma, addr, ptent);
> >  		if (!page)
> >  			continue;
> >  
> > +		mss->resident += PAGE_SIZE;
> >  		/* Accumulate the size in pages that have been accessed. */
> >  		if (pte_young(ptent) || PageReferenced(page))
> >  			mss->referenced += PAGE_SIZE;
> > -- 
> > 1.5.6.3
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> http://selenic.com : development and support for Mercurial and Linux
> 
> 


-- 
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org.  For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-30  1:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-28  4:46 Minchan Kim
2009-12-28  4:47 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-28  5:31   ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-28  5:43     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-28  9:59       ` Minchan Kim
2009-12-29 20:08 ` Matt Mackall
2009-12-30  1:33   ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2009-12-30  3:11     ` Matt Mackall
2009-12-30 16:19     ` Hugh Dickins
2009-12-31  2:47       ` Minchan Kim

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20091230103349.1ec71aac.minchan.kim@barrios-desktop \
    --to=minchan.kim@gmail.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk \
    --cc=kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=mpm@selenic.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox