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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [BUGFIX][PATCH] oom-kill: fix NUMA consraint check with nodemask v4.2
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:43:27 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091215134327.6c46b586.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0912142025090.29243@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:30:37 -0800 (PST)
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> 
> >     I'm now preparing more counters for mm's statistics. It's better to
> >     wait  and to see what we can do more. And other patches for total
> >     oom-killer improvement is under development.
> > 
> >     And, there is a compatibility problem.
> >     As David says, this may break some crazy software which uses
> >     fake_numa+cpuset+oom_killer+oom_adj for resource controlling.
> >    (even if I recommend them to use memcg rather than crazy tricks...)
> >     
> 
> That's not at all what I said.  I said using total_vm as a baseline allows 
> users to define when a process is to be considered "rogue," that is, using 
> more memory than expected.  Using rss would be inappropriate since it is 
> highly dynamic and depends on the state of the VM at the time of oom, 
> which userspace cannot possibly keep updated.
> 
> You consistently ignore that point: the power of /proc/pid/oom_adj to 
> influence when a process, such as a memory leaker, is to be considered as 
> a high priority for an oom kill.  It has absolutely nothing to do with 
> fake NUMA, cpusets, or memcg.
> 
You also ignore that it's not sane to use oom kill for resource control ;)

Anyway, rss patch was dropped as you want.
I'll prepare other ones.

Thanks,
-Kame

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-12-15  4:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-04  8:09 [BUGFIX][PATCH] oom-kill: fix NUMA consraint check with nodemask KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-06  0:02 ` [BUGFIX][PATCH] oom-kill: fix NUMA consraint check with nodemask v2 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-10  7:24   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-10  7:24     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-10  7:39       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-10  7:40         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-10  8:03           ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-11-10  8:17             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-11  2:24               ` [BUGFIX][PATCH] oom-kill: fix NUMA consraint check with nodemask v3 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-11  2:36                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-11  2:49                 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-11  3:02                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-11  3:10                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-11  3:14                     ` David Rientjes
2009-11-11  3:23                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-11  3:27                         ` David Rientjes
2009-11-11  3:04                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-11  4:45                 ` [BUGFIX][PATCH] oom-kill: fix NUMA consraint check with nodemask v4 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-11  5:28                   ` [BUGFIX][PATCH] oom-kill: fix NUMA consraint check with nodemask v4.1 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-11  5:58                     ` David Rientjes
2009-11-11  6:20                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-11  6:26                         ` David Rientjes
2009-11-11  6:34                           ` [BUGFIX][PATCH] oom-kill: fix NUMA consraint check with nodemask v4.2 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-11  7:32                             ` David Rientjes
2009-11-18  0:11                             ` David Rientjes
2009-11-18  0:58                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-18  2:13                                 ` David Rientjes
2009-12-15  1:16                                   ` Andrew Morton
2009-12-15  1:32                                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-15  1:38                                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-15  4:30                                       ` David Rientjes
2009-12-15  4:35                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-15  4:54                                           ` David Rientjes
2009-12-15  5:19                                             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-17 22:21                                               ` David Rientjes
2009-12-18  4:30                                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-18 10:04                                                   ` David Rientjes
2009-12-15  4:57                                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-15  4:43                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2009-12-15  4:57                                           ` David Rientjes
2009-12-15  5:09                                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-17 22:23                                               ` David Rientjes
2009-12-17 23:33                                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-15  4:47                                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-15  5:03                                           ` David Rientjes
2009-11-18  1:41                               ` Daisuke Nishimura

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