From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
vedran.furac@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] oom_kill: use rss value instead of vm size for badness
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 09:44:37 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091204094437.4a9ab001.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0912031514150.8928@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 15:25:05 -0800 (PST)
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> wrote:
> If Andrew pushes the patch to change the baseline to rss
> (oom_kill-use-rss-instead-of-vm-size-for-badness.patch) to Linus, I'll
> strongly nack it because you totally lack the ability to identify memory
> leakers as defined by userspace which should be the prime target for the
> oom killer. You have not addressed that problem, you've merely talked
> around it, and yet the patch unbelievably still sits in -mm.
>
It's still cook-time about oom-kill patches and I'll ask Andrew not to send
it when he asks in mm-merge plan. At least, per-mm swap counter and lowmem-rss
counter is necessary. I'll rewrite fork-bomb detector, too.
Repeatedly saying, calculating badness from vm_size _only_ is bad.
I'm not sure how google's magical applications works, but in general,
vm_size doesn't means private memory usage i.e. how well oom-killer can free
pages.
And current oom-killer kills wrong process. Please share your idea to making
oom-killer better rather than just saying "don't do that".
Do you have good algorithm for detecting memory-leaking process in user land ?
I think I added some in my old set but it's not enough.
I'll add more statistics to mm_struct to do better work.
BTW, I hate oom_adj very much. It's nature of "shift" is hard to understand.
I wonder why static oom priority or oom_threshold was not implemented...
Thanks,
-Kame
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-04 0:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-28 8:58 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-28 9:15 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-28 11:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29 1:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29 2:31 ` Minchan Kim
2009-10-29 8:31 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 8:46 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29 9:01 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 9:16 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29 9:44 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-29 23:41 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-01 13:29 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-02 10:42 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-02 12:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-02 19:55 ` Vedran Furač
2009-11-03 23:09 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-07 19:16 ` Vedran Furač
2009-11-25 12:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-11-25 21:39 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-27 18:26 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-11-30 23:09 ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01 4:43 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-01 22:20 ` David Rientjes
2009-12-02 0:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-12-03 23:25 ` David Rientjes
2009-12-04 0:44 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2009-11-26 0:10 ` Vedran Furač
2009-11-26 1:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-27 1:56 ` Vedran Furač
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