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From: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>, Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
	Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mmotm 4/5] memcg: avoid oom during recharge at task move
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 15:00:33 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091203150033.18dd293f.nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091203142243.5222d7bb.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 14:22:43 +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 13:58:05 +0900
> Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp> wrote:
> > I'm now trying to decrease these overhead as much as possible, and the current
> > status is bellow.
> > 
> thanks.
> 
> > (support for moving swap charge has not been pushed yet in my tree, so I tested
> > only (1) and (2) cases.)
> > 
> >        |  252M  |  512M  |   1G
> >   -----+--------+--------+--------
> >    (1) |  0.20  |  0.40  |  0.81
> >   -----+--------+--------+--------
> >    (2) |  0.20  |  0.40  |  0.81
> > 
> What is the unit of each numbers ? seconds ? And migration of a process with 1G bytes
> requires 0.8sec ? But, hmm, speed up twice! sounds nice.
> 
Ah, these numbers mean "seconds".
I agree they are big yet...

> 
> > What I've done are are:
> > - Instead of calling res_counter_uncharge() against the old cgroup in __mem_cgroup_move_account()
> >   evrytime, call res_counter_uncharge(PAGE_SIZE * moved) at the end of task migration once.
> sounds reasonable.
> 
> > - Instead of calling try_charge repeatedly, call res_counter_charge(PAGE_SIZE * necessary)
> >   in can_attach() if possible.
> sounds reasonable, too.
> 
> > - Not only res_counter_charge/uncharge, consolidate css_get()/put() too.
> > 
> please do. But, hmm, I'd like to remove css_put/get per pages ;) But I put it aside now.
> 
I do agree with you, but removing them would be a big change..
This change reduced about 0.2sec in 1GB case, so it's a workaround for now.


Thanks,
Daisuke Nishimura.

> > 
> > BTW, KAMEZAWA-san, are you planning to add mm_counter for swap yet ?
> yes. please see my newest patch ;) extreme one.http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=125980393923228&w=2
> 
> > To tell the truth, instead of making use of mm_counter, I want to parse the page table
> > in can_attach as I did before, because:
> > - parsing the page table in can_attach seems not to add so big overheads(see below).
> ok.
> 
> > - if we add support for file-cache and shmem in future, I think we need to parse the page table
> >   anyway, because there is no independent mm_counter for shmem. I want to treat them
> >   independently because users don't consider shmem as file-cahce, IMHO.
> > 
> ok. about scanning page tables. 
> Moving 1G means moving 262144, scanning 128 page tables. Maybe not very big cost.
> 
> I still doubt moving "shared" pages "silently" is useful but it's another topic, here.
> 
> > (parsing the page table in can_attach)
> >        |  252M  |  512M  |   1G
> >   -----+--------+--------+--------
> >    (1) |  0.21  |  0.41  |  0.83
> >   -----+--------+--------+--------
> >    (2) |  0.21  |  0.41  |  0.83
> > 
> > Hopefully, I want to post a new version in this week.
> > 
> 
> Thank you for your efforts.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Kame
> 
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-03  6:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-19  4:27 [PATCH -mmotm 0/5] memcg: recharge at task move (19/Nov) Daisuke Nishimura
2009-11-19  4:28 ` [PATCH -mmotm 1/5] cgroup: introduce cancel_attach() Daisuke Nishimura
2009-11-19 21:42   ` Paul Menage
2009-11-19 23:49     ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-11-19  4:29 ` [PATCH -mmotm 2/5] memcg: add interface to recharge at task move Daisuke Nishimura
2009-11-20 15:42   ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-23 23:56     ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-11-19  4:29 ` [PATCH -mmotm 3/5] memcg: recharge charges of anonymous page Daisuke Nishimura
2009-11-19  4:30 ` [PATCH -mmotm 4/5] memcg: avoid oom during recharge at task move Daisuke Nishimura
2009-11-23  5:10   ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-24  2:43     ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-11-27  4:58       ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-12-03  4:58         ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-12-03  5:22           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-12-03  6:00             ` Daisuke Nishimura [this message]
2009-12-03  7:40               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-19  4:31 ` [PATCH -mmotm 5/5] memcg: recharge charges of anonymous swap Daisuke Nishimura
2009-11-23  6:59   ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-24  7:54     ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-11-19 19:03 ` [PATCH -mmotm 0/5] memcg: recharge at task move (19/Nov) Balbir Singh

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