From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>
Cc: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: memcg: slab control
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:10:10 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091201074010.GR2970@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d26f1ae00911260452w7da1f10fk5889e9506aeb1400@mail.gmail.com>
* Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com> [2009-11-26 04:52:00]:
> On 11/26/09, Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com> wrote:
> > > Aren't there patches to make the kernel track which cgroup caused
> > > which disk I/O? If so, it should be possible to charge the bios to the
> > > right cgroup.
> > >
> > > Maybe one way to decide which kernel allocations should be accounted
> > > would be to look at the calling context: If the allocation is done in
> > > user context (syscall), then it could be counted towards that user,
> > > while if the allocation is done in interrupt or kthread context, it
> > > shouldn't be accounted.
> > >
> > > Of course, this wouldn't be perfect, but it might be a good enough
> > > approximation.
> >
> >
> > I disagree. Bio-s are allocated in user context for all typical reads
> > (unless we requested aio) and are allocated either in pdflush context
> > or (!) in arbitrary task context for writes (e.g. via try_to_free_pages)
> > and thus such bio/buffer_head accounting will be completely random.
>
> Yes, that's why I pointed out that you can account to the right cgroup
> if you track who caused the I/O (which, I imagine, should already be
> done by the block i/o bandwidth controller, or similar).
>
We can do so, we do that for task I/O accounting today and it works
quite well for the applications I've applied them to.
> For most other allocations, on the other hand, accounting to the
> current context should be fine.
>
Absolutely! Except when the context is a kernel thread like
pdflush/ksm, etc.
> > One of the way to achieve the goal I can propose the following (it's
> > not perfect, but just smth to start discussion from).
> >
> > We implement support for accounting based on a bit on a kmem_cache
> > structure and mark all kmalloc caches as not-accountable. Then we grep
> > the kernel to find all kmalloc-s and think - if a kmalloc is to be
> > accounted we turn this into kmem_cache_alloc() with dedicated
> > kmem_cache and mark it as accountable.
>
> That sounds like a lot of work. :-)
>
Hmm.. yes, it does, but I wonder if there are better alternatives.
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Balbir
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-01 7:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-25 23:08 David Rientjes
2009-11-26 1:14 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26 8:50 ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-26 8:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26 9:10 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-26 9:33 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26 9:56 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-26 10:24 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2009-11-26 12:31 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-26 12:52 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2009-12-01 7:40 ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2009-11-27 7:15 ` Ying Han
2009-11-27 9:45 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-12-01 5:14 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-30 22:57 ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01 10:31 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-12-01 22:29 ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01 7:36 ` Balbir Singh
2009-12-01 10:40 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-12-01 15:14 ` Balbir Singh
2009-12-02 10:14 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-12-02 10:19 ` Balbir Singh
2009-12-02 10:51 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-30 22:55 ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01 10:39 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-26 10:13 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2009-11-30 9:17 ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-30 22:45 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-26 1:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26 10:01 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2009-11-26 2:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-27 7:01 ` Ying Han
2009-11-27 9:48 ` Pavel Emelyanov
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