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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>
Cc: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: memcg: slab control
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:10:10 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091201074010.GR2970@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d26f1ae00911260452w7da1f10fk5889e9506aeb1400@mail.gmail.com>

* Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com> [2009-11-26 04:52:00]:

> On 11/26/09, Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com> wrote:
> > > Aren't there patches to make the kernel track which cgroup caused
> >  > which disk I/O? If so, it should be possible to charge the bios to the
> >  > right cgroup.
> >  >
> >  > Maybe one way to decide which kernel allocations should be accounted
> >  > would be to look at the calling context: If the allocation is done in
> >  > user context (syscall), then it could be counted towards that user,
> >  > while if the allocation is done in interrupt or kthread context, it
> >  > shouldn't be accounted.
> >  >
> >  > Of course, this wouldn't be perfect, but it might be a good enough
> >  > approximation.
> >
> >
> > I disagree. Bio-s are allocated in user context for all typical reads
> >  (unless we requested aio) and are allocated either in pdflush context
> >  or (!) in arbitrary task context for writes (e.g. via try_to_free_pages)
> >  and thus such bio/buffer_head accounting will be completely random.
> 
> Yes, that's why I pointed out that you can account to the right cgroup
> if you track who caused the I/O (which, I imagine, should already be
> done by the block i/o bandwidth controller, or similar).
>

We can do so, we do that for task I/O accounting today and it works
quite well for the applications I've applied them to.
 
> For most other allocations, on the other hand, accounting to the
> current context should be fine.
> 

Absolutely! Except when the context is a kernel thread like
pdflush/ksm, etc. 

> >  One of the way to achieve the goal I can propose the following (it's
> >  not perfect, but just smth to start discussion from).
> >
> >  We implement support for accounting based on a bit on a kmem_cache
> >  structure and mark all kmalloc caches as not-accountable. Then we grep
> >  the kernel to find all kmalloc-s and think - if a kmalloc is to be
> >  accounted we turn this into kmem_cache_alloc() with dedicated
> >  kmem_cache and mark it as accountable.
> 
> That sounds like a lot of work. :-)
>

Hmm.. yes, it does, but I wonder if there are better alternatives. 

-- 
	Balbir

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-01  7:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-25 23:08 David Rientjes
2009-11-26  1:14 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26  8:50   ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-26  8:56     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26  9:10       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-26  9:33         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26  9:56           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-26 10:24             ` Suleiman Souhlal
2009-11-26 12:31               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-26 12:52                 ` Suleiman Souhlal
2009-12-01  7:40                   ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2009-11-27  7:15                 ` Ying Han
2009-11-27  9:45                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-12-01  5:14                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-30 22:57                 ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01 10:31                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-12-01 22:29                     ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01  7:36             ` Balbir Singh
2009-12-01 10:40               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-12-01 15:14                 ` Balbir Singh
2009-12-02 10:14                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-12-02 10:19                     ` Balbir Singh
2009-12-02 10:51                       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-30 22:55         ` David Rientjes
2009-12-01 10:39           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2009-11-26 10:13     ` Suleiman Souhlal
2009-11-30  9:17       ` Balbir Singh
2009-11-30 22:45   ` David Rientjes
2009-11-26  1:17 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-26 10:01   ` Suleiman Souhlal
2009-11-26  2:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-27  7:01   ` Ying Han
2009-11-27  9:48     ` Pavel Emelyanov

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