From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] Kill PF_MEMALLOC abuse
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:55:51 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091118144418.3E17.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1258491379.3918.48.camel@laptop>
> On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 17:33 +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> >
> > if there is so such reason. we might need to implement another MM trick.
> > but keeping this strage usage is not a option. All memory freeing activity
> > (e.g. page out, task killing) need some memory. we need to protect its
> > emergency memory. otherwise linux reliability decrease dramatically when
> > the system face to memory stress.
>
> In general PF_MEMALLOC is a particularly bad idea, even for the VM when
> not coupled with limiting the consumption. That is one should make an
> upper-bound estimation of the memory needed for a writeout-path per
> page, and reserve a small multiple thereof, and limit the number of
> pages written out so as to never exceed this estimate.
>
> If the current mempool interface isn't sufficient (not hard to imagine),
> look at the swap over NFS patch-set, that includes a much more able
> reservation scheme, and accounting framework.
Yes, I agree.
In this discussion, some people explained why their subsystem need
emergency memory, but nobody claim sharing memory pool against VM and
surely want to stop reclaim (PF_MEMALLOC's big side effect).
OK. I try to review your patch carefully and remake this patch series on top
your reservation framework in swap-over-nfs patch series.
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-17 7:16 KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 7:17 ` [PATCH 1/7] dm: use __GFP_HIGH instead PF_MEMALLOC KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 13:15 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2009-11-18 6:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 7:17 ` [PATCH 2/7] mmc: Don't use PF_MEMALLOC KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 10:29 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-17 10:32 ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-17 10:38 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-11-17 11:58 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 12:51 ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-17 20:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-18 0:01 ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-18 9:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-18 10:31 ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-18 10:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-18 11:15 ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-17 7:18 ` [PATCH 3/7] mtd: " KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 7:19 ` [PATCH 4/7] nandsim: " KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-23 15:00 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-23 20:01 ` Adrian Hunter
2009-11-24 10:46 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-24 11:56 ` Adrian Hunter
2009-11-25 0:42 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-25 7:13 ` Adrian Hunter
2009-11-25 7:18 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 7:21 ` [PATCH 5/7] Revert "Intel IOMMU: Avoid memory allocation failures in dma map api calls" KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 7:22 ` [PATCH 6/7] cifs: Don't use PF_MEMALLOC KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 7:32 ` [PATCH] Mark cifs mailing list as "moderated as non-subscribers" KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 12:47 ` [PATCH 6/7] cifs: Don't use PF_MEMALLOC Jeff Layton
2009-11-17 16:40 ` Steve French
2009-11-18 6:31 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 7:23 ` [PATCH 7/7] xfs: " KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 22:11 ` Dave Chinner
2009-11-18 8:56 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-18 22:16 ` Dave Chinner
2009-11-17 8:07 ` [PATCH 0/7] Kill PF_MEMALLOC abuse David Rientjes
2009-11-17 8:33 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 8:36 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-17 20:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-11-18 5:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2009-11-17 10:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-11-17 10:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 10:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-11-17 12:24 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-17 12:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
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