From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 2/5] vmscan: Kill hibernation specific reclaim logic and unify it
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:51:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200911032251.53790.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091103141200.0B3C.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Tuesday 03 November 2009, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > On Monday 02 November 2009, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > > > > Then, This patch changed shrink_all_memory() to only the wrapper function of
> > > > > do_try_to_free_pages(). it bring good reviewability and debuggability, and solve
> > > > > above problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > side note: Reclaim logic unificication makes two good side effect.
> > > > > - Fix recursive reclaim bug on shrink_all_memory().
> > > > > it did forgot to use PF_MEMALLOC. it mean the system be able to stuck into deadlock.
> > > > > - Now, shrink_all_memory() got lockdep awareness. it bring good debuggability.
> > > >
> > > > As I said previously, I don't really see a reason to keep shrink_all_memory().
> > > >
> > > > Do you think that removing it will result in performance degradation?
> > >
> > > Hmm...
> > > Probably, I misunderstood your mention. I thought you suggested to kill
> > > all hibernation specific reclaim code. I did. It's no performance degression.
> > > (At least, I didn't observe)
> > >
> > > But, if you hope to kill shrink_all_memory() function itsef, the short answer is,
> > > it's impossible.
> > >
> > > Current VM reclaim code need some preparetion to caller, and there are existing in
> > > both alloc_pages_slowpath() and try_to_free_pages(). We can't omit its preparation.
> >
> > Well, my grepping for 'shrink_all_memory' throughout the entire kernel source
> > code seems to indicate that hibernate_preallocate_memory() is the only current
> > user of it. I may be wrong, but I doubt it, unless some new users have been
> > added since 2.6.31.
> >
> > In case I'm not wrong, it should be safe to drop it from
> > hibernate_preallocate_memory(), because it's there for performance reasons
> > only. Now, since hibernate_preallocate_memory() appears to be the only user of
> > it, it should be safe to drop it entirely.
>
> Hmmm...
> I've try the dropping shrink_all_memory() today. but I've got bad result.
>
> In 3 times test, result were
>
> 2 times: kernel hang-up ;)
> 1 time: success, but make slower than with shrink_all_memory() about 100x times.
>
>
> Did you try to drop it yourself on your machine? Is this success?
Generally, yes, but the performance was hit really badly.
So, the conclusion is that we need shrink_all_memory() for things to work,
which is kind of interesting.
In that case, please feel free to add Acked-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
to the patch.
Thanks,
Rafael
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-03 21:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-01 15:08 [PATCHv2 1/5] vmscan: separate sc.swap_cluster_max and sc.nr_max_reclaim KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-01 15:09 ` [PATCHv2 2/5] vmscan: Kill hibernation specific reclaim logic and unify it KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-01 15:12 ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-01 21:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-11-02 15:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-02 19:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-11-03 14:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-03 21:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2009-11-01 22:01 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-11-02 15:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-02 19:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-11-02 21:19 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-11-03 11:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-11-03 21:12 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-11-03 22:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-11-12 12:33 ` using highmem for atomic copy of lowmem was " Pavel Machek
2009-11-12 23:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-11-03 14:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-03 21:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-11-01 15:11 ` [PATCHv2 3/5] vmscan: Stop zone_reclaim()'s wrong swap_cluster_max usage KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-01 17:51 ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-02 0:40 ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-01 15:12 ` [PATCHv2 4/5] vmscan: Kill sc.swap_cluster_max KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-01 17:56 ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-02 0:46 ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-01 15:13 ` [PATCHv2 5/5][nit fix] vmscan Make consistent of reclaim bale out between do_try_to_free_page and shrink_zone KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-01 17:58 ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-02 0:48 ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-02 0:35 ` [PATCHv2 1/5] vmscan: separate sc.swap_cluster_max and sc.nr_max_reclaim Minchan Kim
2009-11-02 0:48 ` Minchan Kim
2009-11-02 15:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-02 23:34 ` Minchan Kim
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