From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
stable@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"linux-mm@kvack.org\"" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
Sven Geggus <lists@fuchsschwanzdomain.de>,
Karol Lewandowski <karol.k.lewandowski@gmail.com>,
Tobias Oetiker <tobi@oetiker.ch>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] vmscan: Force kswapd to take notice faster when high-order watermarks are being hit
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:54:04 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091028115505.FD88.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091027131905.410ec04a.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:40:33 +0000
> Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:
>
> > When a high-order allocation fails, kswapd is kicked so that it reclaims
> > at a higher-order to avoid direct reclaimers stall and to help GFP_ATOMIC
> > allocations. Something has changed in recent kernels that affect the timing
> > where high-order GFP_ATOMIC allocations are now failing with more frequency,
> > particularly under pressure. This patch forces kswapd to notice sooner that
> > high-order allocations are occuring.
>
> "something has changed"? Shouldn't we find out what that is?
if kswapd_max_order was changed, kswapd quickly change its own reclaim
order.
old:
1. happen order-0 allocation
2. kick kswapd
3. happen high-order allocation
4. change kswapd_max_order, but kswapd continue order-0 reclaim.
5. kswapd end order-0 reclaim and exit balance_pgdat
6. kswapd() restart balance_pdgat() with high-order
new:
1. happen order-0 allocation
2. kick kswapd
3. happen high-order allocation
4. change kswapd_max_order
5. kswapd notice it and quickly exit balance_pgdat()
6. kswapd() restart balance_pdgat() with high-order
>
> > ---
> > mm/vmscan.c | 9 +++++++++
> > 1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> > index 64e4388..7eceb02 100644
> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> > @@ -2016,6 +2016,15 @@ loop_again:
> > priority != DEF_PRIORITY)
> > continue;
> >
> > + /*
> > + * Exit the function now and have kswapd start over
> > + * if it is known that higher orders are required
> > + */
> > + if (pgdat->kswapd_max_order > order) {
> > + all_zones_ok = 1;
> > + goto out;
> > + }
> > +
> > if (!zone_watermark_ok(zone, order,
> > high_wmark_pages(zone), end_zone, 0))
> > all_zones_ok = 0;
>
> So this handles the case where some concurrent thread or interrupt
> increases pgdat->kswapd_max_order while kswapd was running
> balance_pgdat(), yes?
Yes.
> Does that actually happen much? Enough for this patch to make any
> useful difference?
In typical use-case, it doesn't have so much improvement. However some
driver use high-order allocation on interrupt context.
It mean we need quickly reclaim before GFP_ATOMIC allocation failure.
I agree these driver is ill. but...
We can't ignore enduser bug report.
>
> If one where to whack a printk in that `if' block, how often would it
> trigger, and under what circumstances?
>
>
> If the -stable maintainers were to ask me "why did you send this" then
> right now my answer would have to be "I have no idea". Help.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-28 3:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-27 13:40 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce GFP_ATOMIC allocation failures, partial fix V3 Mel Gorman
2009-10-27 13:40 ` [PATCH 1/3] page allocator: Always wake kswapd when restarting an allocation attempt after direct reclaim failed Mel Gorman
2009-10-27 13:40 ` [PATCH 2/3] page allocator: Do not allow interrupts to use ALLOC_HARDER Mel Gorman
[not found] ` <1256650833-15516-3-git-send-email-mel-wPRd99KPJ+uzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-27 20:09 ` Andrew Morton
2009-10-27 21:12 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-31 18:40 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-31 19:51 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-31 20:11 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-31 21:19 ` David Rientjes
2009-10-31 22:29 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-31 22:55 ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-01 7:35 ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-01 12:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-11-01 14:44 ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-01 19:32 ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-02 16:38 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-10-31 23:59 ` Rik van Riel
2009-11-02 16:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-02 20:53 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-03 17:10 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-04 1:46 ` David Rientjes
2009-11-04 9:01 ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-09 10:11 ` Mel Gorman
2009-10-28 10:24 ` Mel Gorman
2009-10-27 13:40 ` [PATCH 3/3] vmscan: Force kswapd to take notice faster when high-order watermarks are being hit Mel Gorman
2009-10-27 18:18 ` Rik van Riel
2009-10-27 20:19 ` Andrew Morton
2009-10-28 3:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2009-10-28 10:29 ` Mel Gorman
2009-10-28 19:47 ` Andrew Morton
2009-11-02 16:05 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-02 17:32 ` Frans Pop
2009-11-02 17:38 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-02 20:36 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-03 22:01 ` Frans Pop
2009-11-03 22:08 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-04 0:01 ` Frans Pop
2009-11-04 1:18 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-04 2:05 ` Frans Pop
2009-11-04 2:08 ` Frans Pop
2009-11-04 15:48 ` Mel Gorman
2009-11-04 20:57 ` Frans Pop
2009-11-05 16:48 ` [PATCH 3/3] vmscan: Force kswapd to take notice faster when high-order watermarks are being hit (data on latencies available) Mel Gorman
2009-11-12 11:36 ` Frans Pop
2009-11-04 2:08 ` [PATCH 3/3] vmscan: Force kswapd to take notice faster when high-order watermarks are being hit Mel Gorman
2009-10-28 13:02 ` [PATCH 0/3] Reduce GFP_ATOMIC allocation failures, partial fix V3 Karol Lewandowski
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