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From: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: Transparent Hugepage support
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:25:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091027202533.GB2726@sequoia.sous-sol.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091027182109.GA5753@random.random>

* Andrea Arcangeli (aarcange@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 04:42:39PM -0400, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > 1) hugepages have to be swappable or the guest physical memory remains
> > >    locked in RAM and can't be paged out to swap
> > 
> > Thats not such a big issue IMHO. Paging is not necessary. Swapping is
> > deadly to many performance based loads. You would abort a job anyways that
> 
> Yes, swapping is deadly to performance based loads and it should be
> avoided as much as possible, but it's not nice when in order to get a
> boost in guest performance when the host isn't low on memory, you lose
> the ability to swap when the host is low on memory and all VM are
> locked in memory like in inferior-design virtual machines that won't
> ever support paging. When system starts swapping the manager can
> migrate the VM to other hosts with more memory free to restore the
> full RAM performance as soon as possible. Overcommit can be very
> useful at maxing out RAM utilization, just like it happens for regular
> linux tasks (few people runs with overcommit = 2 for this very
> reason.. besides overcommit = 2 includes swap in its equation so you
> can still max out ram by adding more free swap).

It's also needed if something like glibc were to take advantage of it in
a generic manner.

thanks,
-chris

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-27 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-26 18:51 Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-27 15:41 ` Rik van Riel
2009-10-27 18:18 ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-27 19:30   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-28  4:28     ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-28 12:00       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-28 14:18         ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-28 14:54           ` Adam Litke
2009-10-28 15:13             ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-28 15:30               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-29 15:59             ` Dave Hansen
2009-10-31 21:32             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-28 15:48           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-28 16:03             ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-28 16:22               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-28 16:34                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-28 16:56                   ` Adam Litke
2009-10-28 17:18                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-28 19:04                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-28 19:22                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-29  9:43       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-10-29 10:36         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-29 16:50           ` Mike Travis
2009-10-30  0:40           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-11-03 10:55             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-11-04  0:36               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-29 12:54     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-27 20:42 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-10-27 18:21   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-27 20:25     ` Chris Wright [this message]
2009-10-29 18:51       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-11-01 10:56         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-10-29 18:55     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-10-31 21:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-03 11:18   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-11-03 19:10     ` Dave Hansen
2009-11-04  4:10     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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