From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/2] memcg: replace memcg's per cpu status counter with array counter like vmstat
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 10:29:12 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091001102912.7276a8b3.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091001094514.c9d2b3d9.nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:45:14 +0900
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:04:17 +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > In current implementation, memcg uses its own percpu counters for counting
> > evetns and # of RSS, CACHES. Now, counter is maintainer per cpu without
> > any synchronization as vm_stat[] or percpu_counter. So, this is
> > update-is-fast-but-read-is-slow conter.
> >
> > Because "read" for these counter was only done by memory.stat file, I thought
> > read-side-slowness was acceptable. Amount of memory usage, which affects
> > memory limit check, can be read by memory.usage_in_bytes. It's maintained
> > by res_counter.
> >
> > But in current -rc, root memcg's memory usage is calcualted by this per cpu
> > counter and read side slowness may be trouble if it's frequently read.
> >
> > And, in recent discusstion, I wonder we should maintain NR_DIRTY etc...
> > in memcg. So, slow-read-counter will not match our requirements, I guess.
> > I want some counter like vm_stat[] in memcg.
> >
> I see your concern.
>
> But IMHO, it would be better to explain why we need a new percpu array counter
> instead of using array of percpu_counter(size or consolidation of related counters ?),
> IOW, what the benefit of percpu array counter is.
>
Ok.
array of 4 percpu counter means a struct like following.
lock 4bytes (int)
count 8bytes
list_head 16bytes
pointer to percpu 8bytes
lock ,,,
count
list_head
pointer to percpu
lock
count
list_head
pointer to percpu
lock
count
list_head
pointer to percpu
36x4= 144 bytes and this has 4 spinlocks.2 cache lines.
4 spinlock means if one of "batch" expires in a cpu, all cache above will
be invalidated. Most of read-only data will lost.
Making alignments of each percpu counter to cacheline for avoiding
false sharing means this will use 4 cachelines + percpu area.
That's bad.
array counter of 4 entry is:
s8 batch 4bytes (will be aligned)
pointer to percpu 8bytes
elements 4bytes.
list head 16bytes
==== cacheline aligned here== 128bytes.
atomic_long_t 4x8==32bytes
==== should be aligned to cache ? maybe yes===
Then, this will occupy 2 cachelines + percpu area.
No false sharing in read-only area.
All writes are done in one (locked) access.
Hmm..I may have to consider more about archs which has not atomic_xxx ops.
Considerng sets of counters can be updated at once, array of percpu counter
is not good choice. I think.
Thanks,
-Kame
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-01 1:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-30 10:04 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-09-30 10:09 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] percpu " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-09-30 23:31 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-09-30 23:56 ` nishimura
2009-09-30 10:12 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] memcg: use generic percpu array_counter KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-10-01 0:45 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/2] memcg: replace memcg's per cpu status counter with array counter like vmstat Daisuke Nishimura
2009-10-01 1:29 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
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