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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Lee Schermerhorn <Lee.Schermerhorn@hp.com>
Cc: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nishanth Aravamudan <nacc@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-numa@vger.kernel.org, Adam Litke <agl@us.ibm.com>,
	Andy Whitcroft <apw@canonical.com>,
	Eric Whitney <eric.whitney@hp.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] hugetlb:  update hugetlb documentation for mempolicy based management.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:41:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090914154112.GD11778@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1252937748.17132.111.camel@useless.americas.hpqcorp.net>

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 10:15:48AM -0400, Lee Schermerhorn wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 14:33 +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 03:27:30PM -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> > > On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > Would you explain why introducing a new mempolicy flag, MPOL_F_HUGEPAGES, 
> > > > > and only using the new behavior when this is set would be inconsistent or 
> > > > > inadvisible?
> > > > 
> > > > I already explained this. The interface in numactl would look weird. There
> > > > would be an --interleave switch and a --hugepages-interleave that only
> > > > applies to nr_hugepages. The smarts could be in hugeadm to apply the mask
> > > > when --pool-pages-min is specified but that wouldn't help scripts that are
> > > > still using echo.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I don't think we need to address the scripts that are currently using echo 
> > > since they're (hopefully) written to the kernel implementation, i.e. no 
> > > mempolicy restriction on writing to nr_hugepages.
> > > 
> > 
> > Ok.
> > 
> > > > I hate to have to do this, but how about nr_hugepages which acts
> > > > system-wide as it did traditionally and nr_hugepages_mempolicy that obeys
> > > > policies? Something like the following untested patch. It would be fairly
> > > > trivial for me to implement a --obey-mempolicies switch for hugeadm which
> > > > works in conjunction with --pool--pages-min and less likely to cause confusion
> > > > than --hugepages-interleave in numactl.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I like it.
> > > 
> > 
> > Ok, when I get this tested, I'll sent it as a follow-on patch to Lee's
> > for proper incorporation.
> > 
> > > > Sorry the patch is untested. I can't hold of a NUMA machine at the moment
> > > > and fake NUMA support sucks far worse than I expected it to.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Hmm, I rewrote most of fake NUMA a couple years ago.  What problems are 
> > > you having with it?
> > > 
> > 
> > On PPC64, the parameters behave differently. I couldn't convince it to
> > create more than one NUMA node. On x86-64, the NUMA nodes appeared to
> > exist and would be visible on /proc/buddyinfo for example but the sysfs
> > directories for the fake nodes were not created so nr_hugepages couldn't
> > be examined on a per-node basis for example.
> > 
> > > > ==== BEGIN PATCH ====
> > > > 
> > > > [PATCH] Optionally use a memory policy when tuning the size of the static hugepage pool
> > > > 
> > > > Patch "derive huge pages nodes allowed from task mempolicy" brought
> > > > huge page support more in line with the core VM in that tuning the size
> > > > of the static huge page pool would obey memory policies. Using this,
> > > > administrators could interleave allocation of huge pages from a subset
> > > > of nodes. This is consistent with how dynamic hugepage pool resizing
> > > > works and how hugepages get allocated to applications at run-time.
> > > > 
> > > > However, it was pointed out that scripts may exist that depend on being
> > > > able to drain all hugepages via /proc/sys/vm/nr_hugepages from processes
> > > > that are running within a memory policy. This patch adds
> > > > /proc/sys/vm/nr_hugepages_mempolicy which when written to will obey
> > > > memory policies. /proc/sys/vm/nr_hugepages continues then to be a
> > > > system-wide tunable regardless of memory policy.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
> > > > --- 
> > > >  include/linux/hugetlb.h |    1 +
> > > >  kernel/sysctl.c         |   11 +++++++++++
> > > >  mm/hugetlb.c            |   35 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> > > >  3 files changed, 44 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > It'll need an update to Documentation/vm/hugetlb.txt, but this can 
> > > probably be done in one of Lee's patches that edits the same file when he 
> > > reposts.
> > > 
> > 
> > Agreed.
> 
> So, I'm respinning V7 today.  Shall I add this in as a separate patch?
> 

If you can, it'd be great but I can also spin a patch on top of yours
and update the documentation accordingly if you prefer.

> Also, see below:
> 
> 
> > 
> > > > diff --git a/include/linux/hugetlb.h b/include/linux/hugetlb.h
> > > > index fcb1677..fc3a659 100644
> > > > --- a/include/linux/hugetlb.h
> > > > +++ b/include/linux/hugetlb.h
> > > > @@ -21,6 +21,7 @@ static inline int is_vm_hugetlb_page(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> > > >  
> > > >  void reset_vma_resv_huge_pages(struct vm_area_struct *vma);
> > > >  int hugetlb_sysctl_handler(struct ctl_table *, int, void __user *, size_t *, loff_t *);
> > > > +int hugetlb_mempolicy_sysctl_handler(struct ctl_table *, int, void __user *, size_t *, loff_t *);
> > > >  int hugetlb_overcommit_handler(struct ctl_table *, int, void __user *, size_t *, loff_t *);
> > > >  int hugetlb_treat_movable_handler(struct ctl_table *, int, void __user *, size_t *, loff_t *);
> > > >  int copy_hugetlb_page_range(struct mm_struct *, struct mm_struct *, struct vm_area_struct *);
> > > > diff --git a/kernel/sysctl.c b/kernel/sysctl.c
> > > > index 8bac3f5..0637655 100644
> > > > --- a/kernel/sysctl.c
> > > > +++ b/kernel/sysctl.c
> > > > @@ -1171,6 +1171,17 @@ static struct ctl_table vm_table[] = {
> > > >  		.extra1		= (void *)&hugetlb_zero,
> > > >  		.extra2		= (void *)&hugetlb_infinity,
> > > >  	 },
> > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_NUMA
> > > > +	 {
> > > > +		.procname	= "nr_hugepages_mempolicy",
> > > > +		.data		= NULL,
> > > > +		.maxlen		= sizeof(unsigned long),
> > > > +		.mode		= 0644,
> > > > +		.proc_handler	= &hugetlb_mempolicy_sysctl_handler,
> > > > +		.extra1		= (void *)&hugetlb_zero,
> > > > +		.extra2		= (void *)&hugetlb_infinity,
> > > > +	 },
> > > > +#endif
> > > >  	 {
> > > >  		.ctl_name	= VM_HUGETLB_GROUP,
> > > >  		.procname	= "hugetlb_shm_group",
> > > > diff --git a/mm/hugetlb.c b/mm/hugetlb.c
> > > > index 83decd6..68abef0 100644
> > > > --- a/mm/hugetlb.c
> > > > +++ b/mm/hugetlb.c
> > > > @@ -1244,6 +1244,7 @@ static int adjust_pool_surplus(struct hstate *h, nodemask_t *nodes_allowed,
> > > >  	return ret;
> > > >  }
> > > >  
> > > > +#define NUMA_NO_NODE_OBEY_MEMPOLICY (-2)
> 
> How about defining NUMA_NO_NODE_OBEY_MEMPOLICY as (NUMA_NO_NODE - 1)
> just to ensure that it's different.  Not sure it's worth an enum at this
> point.  NUMA_NO_NODE_OBEY_MEMPOLICY is private to hugetlb at this time.
> 

That seems reasonable.

> > > >  #define persistent_huge_pages(h) (h->nr_huge_pages - h->surplus_huge_pages)
> > > >  static unsigned long set_max_huge_pages(struct hstate *h, unsigned long count,
> > > >  								int nid)
> > > 
> > > I think it would be possible to avoid adding NUMA_NO_NODE_OBEY_MEMPOLICY 
> > > if the nodemask was allocated in the sysctl handler instead and passing it 
> > > into set_max_huge_pages() instead of a nid.  Lee, what do you think?
> > > 
> > > Other than that, I like this approach because it avoids the potential for 
> > > userspace breakage while adding the new feature in way that avoids 
> > > confusion.
> > > 
> > 
> > Indeed. While the addition of another proc tunable sucks, it seems like
> > the only available compromise.
> 
> And, I supposed we need to replicate this under the global sysfs
> hstates?
> 

You're right, they would also be needed under /sys/kernel/mm/hugepages/*

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Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-14 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-28 16:03 [PATCH 0/6] hugetlb: V5 constrain allocation/free based on task mempolicy Lee Schermerhorn
2009-08-28 16:03 ` [PATCH 1/6] hugetlb: rework hstate_next_node_* functions Lee Schermerhorn
2009-08-28 16:03 ` [PATCH 2/6] hugetlb: add nodemask arg to huge page alloc, free and surplus adjust fcns Lee Schermerhorn
2009-09-03 18:39   ` David Rientjes
2009-08-28 16:03 ` [PATCH 3/6] hugetlb: derive huge pages nodes allowed from task mempolicy Lee Schermerhorn
2009-09-01 14:47   ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-03 19:22   ` David Rientjes
2009-09-03 20:15     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-09-03 20:49       ` David Rientjes
2009-08-28 16:03 ` [PATCH 4/6] hugetlb: introduce alloc_nodemask_of_node Lee Schermerhorn
2009-09-01 14:49   ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-01 16:42     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-09-03 18:34       ` David Rientjes
2009-09-03 20:49         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-09-03 21:03           ` David Rientjes
2009-08-28 16:03 ` [PATCH 5/6] hugetlb: add per node hstate attributes Lee Schermerhorn
2009-09-01 15:20   ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-03 19:52   ` David Rientjes
2009-09-03 20:41     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-09-03 21:02       ` David Rientjes
2009-09-04 14:30         ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-08-28 16:03 ` [PATCH 6/6] hugetlb: update hugetlb documentation for mempolicy based management Lee Schermerhorn
2009-09-03 20:07   ` David Rientjes
2009-09-03 21:09     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-09-03 21:25       ` David Rientjes
2009-09-08 10:44         ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-08 19:51           ` David Rientjes
2009-09-08 20:04             ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-08 20:18               ` David Rientjes
2009-09-08 21:41                 ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-08 22:54                   ` David Rientjes
2009-09-09  8:16                     ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-09 20:44                       ` David Rientjes
2009-09-10 12:26                         ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-11 22:27                           ` David Rientjes
2009-09-14 13:33                             ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-14 14:15                               ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-09-14 15:41                                 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2009-09-14 19:15                                   ` David Rientjes
2009-09-15 11:48                                     ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-14 19:14                               ` David Rientjes
2009-09-14 21:28                                 ` David Rientjes
2009-09-16 10:21                                   ` Mel Gorman
2009-09-03 20:42   ` Randy Dunlap
2009-09-04 15:23     ` Lee Schermerhorn
2009-09-09 16:31 [PATCH 0/6] hugetlb: V6 constrain allocation/free based on task mempolicy Lee Schermerhorn
2009-09-09 16:32 ` [PATCH 6/6] hugetlb: update hugetlb documentation for mempolicy based management Lee Schermerhorn

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