From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Justin M. Forbes" <jmforbes@linuxtx.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/12] ksm: fix munlock during exit_mmap deadlock
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 23:14:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090826211400.GE14722@random.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A95A10C.5040008@redhat.com>
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 11:54:36PM +0300, Izik Eidus wrote:
> But before getting into this, why is it so important to break the ksm
> pages when madvise(UNMERGEABLE) get called?
The moment ksm pages are swappable, there's no apparent reason why
anybody should ask the kernel to break any ksm page if the application
themselfs aren't writing to them in the first place (triggering
copy-on-write in app context which already handles TIF_MEMDIE just
fine).
In oom deadlock terms madvise(UNMERGEABLE) is the only place that is
100% fine at breaking KSM pages, because it runs with right tsk->mm
and page allocation will notice TIF_MEMDIE set on tsk.
If we remove "echo 2" only remaining "unsafe" spot is the break_cow in
kksmd context when memcmp fails and similar during the scan.
> When thinking about it, lets say I want to use ksm to scan 2
> applications and merged their STATIC identical data, and then i want to
> stop scanning them after i know ksm merged the pages, as soon as i will
> try to unregister this 2 applications ksm will unmerge the pages, so we
> dont allow such thing for the user (we can tell him ofcurse for such
> case to use normal way of sharing, so this isnt a really strong case for
> this)
For the app it will be tricky to know when the pages are merged
though, right now it could only wait a "while"... so I don't really
see madvise(UNMERGEABLE) as useful regardless how we implement
it... but then this goes beyond the scope of this bug because as said
madvise(UNMERGEABLE) is the only place that breaks ksm pages as safe
as regular write fault in oom context because of it running in the
process context (not echo 2 or kksmd context).
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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-03 12:08 [PATCH 0/12] ksm: stats, oom, doc, misc Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:10 ` [PATCH 1/12] ksm: rename kernel_pages_allocated Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 14:21 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 16:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-03 12:11 ` [PATCH 2/12] ksm: move pages_sharing updates Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 14:34 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 16:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-03 17:34 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:11 ` [PATCH 3/12] ksm: pages_unshared and pages_volatile Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 14:54 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-04 21:49 ` Andrew Morton
2009-08-05 11:39 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-05 15:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-03 12:12 ` [PATCH 4/12] ksm: break cow once unshared Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 16:00 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 12:14 ` [PATCH 5/12] ksm: keep quiet while list empty Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 16:55 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-04 21:59 ` Andrew Morton
2009-08-05 11:54 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-03 12:15 ` [PATCH 6/12] ksm: five little cleanups Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 12:41 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 12:16 ` [PATCH 7/12] ksm: fix endless loop on oom Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 12:55 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 12:17 ` [PATCH 8/12] ksm: distribute remove_mm_from_lists Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 13:03 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 12:18 ` [PATCH 9/12] ksm: fix oom deadlock Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 19:32 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-25 14:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-25 15:22 ` [PATCH 13/12] ksm: fix munlock during exit_mmap deadlock Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-25 17:49 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-25 18:10 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-25 18:58 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-25 19:45 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-26 16:18 ` Justin M. Forbes
2009-08-26 19:17 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-26 19:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-26 19:57 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-26 20:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-26 20:54 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-26 21:14 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2009-08-26 21:49 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-27 19:11 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-27 19:35 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-26 22:00 ` David Rientjes
2009-08-26 20:29 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-08-25 17:35 ` [PATCH 9/12] ksm: fix oom deadlock Hugh Dickins
2009-08-25 17:47 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-08-03 12:19 ` [PATCH 10/12] ksm: sysfs and defaults Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 19:34 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 12:21 ` [PATCH 11/12] ksm: add some documentation Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 19:35 ` Izik Eidus
2009-08-03 12:22 ` [PATCH 12/12] ksm: remove VM_MERGEABLE_FLAGS Hugh Dickins
2009-08-04 19:35 ` Izik Eidus
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