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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"Dike, Jeffrey G" <jeffrey.g.dike@intel.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	"lizf@cn.fujitsu.com" <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	"menage@google.com" <menage@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2] mm: do batched scans for mem_cgroup
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:46:56 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090820051656.GB26265@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090820040533.GA27540@localhost>

* Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> [2009-08-20 12:05:33]:

> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:13:47AM +0800, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> > On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:49:29 +0800
> > Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > For mem_cgroup, shrink_zone() may call shrink_list() with nr_to_scan=1,
> > > in which case shrink_list() _still_ calls isolate_pages() with the much
> > > larger SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX.  It effectively scales up the inactive list
> > > scan rate by up to 32 times.
> > > 
> > > For example, with 16k inactive pages and DEF_PRIORITY=12, (16k >> 12)=4.
> > > So when shrink_zone() expects to scan 4 pages in the active/inactive
> > > list, it will be scanned SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX=32 pages in effect.
> > > 
> > > The accesses to nr_saved_scan are not lock protected and so not 100%
> > > accurate, however we can tolerate small errors and the resulted small
> > > imbalanced scan rates between zones.
> > > 
> > > This batching won't blur up the cgroup limits, since it is driven by
> > > "pages reclaimed" rather than "pages scanned". When shrink_zone()
> > > decides to cancel (and save) one smallish scan, it may well be called
> > > again to accumulate up nr_saved_scan.
> > > 
> > > It could possibly be a problem for some tiny mem_cgroup (which may be
> > > _full_ scanned too much times in order to accumulate up nr_saved_scan).
> > > 
> > > CC: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> > > CC: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
> > > CC: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > > CC: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
> > > CC: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> > > ---
> > 
> > Hmm, how about this ? 
> > ==
> > Now, nr_saved_scan is tied to zone's LRU.
> > But, considering how vmscan works, it should be tied to reclaim_stat.
> > 
> > By this, memcg can make use of nr_saved_scan information seamlessly.
> 
> Good idea, full patch updated with your signed-off-by :)
> 
> Thanks,
> Fengguang
> ---
> mm: do batched scans for mem_cgroup
> 
> For mem_cgroup, shrink_zone() may call shrink_list() with nr_to_scan=1,
> in which case shrink_list() _still_ calls isolate_pages() with the much
> larger SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX.  It effectively scales up the inactive list
> scan rate by up to 32 times.
> 
> For example, with 16k inactive pages and DEF_PRIORITY=12, (16k >> 12)=4.
> So when shrink_zone() expects to scan 4 pages in the active/inactive
> list, it will be scanned SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX=32 pages in effect.
> 
> The accesses to nr_saved_scan are not lock protected and so not 100%
> accurate, however we can tolerate small errors and the resulted small
> imbalanced scan rates between zones.
> 
> This batching won't blur up the cgroup limits, since it is driven by
> "pages reclaimed" rather than "pages scanned". When shrink_zone()
> decides to cancel (and save) one smallish scan, it may well be called
> again to accumulate up nr_saved_scan.
> 
> It could possibly be a problem for some tiny mem_cgroup (which may be
> _full_ scanned too much times in order to accumulate up nr_saved_scan).
>

Looks good to me, how did you test it?

Acked-by: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
 
 
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	Balbir

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-20  5:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-20  2:49 [PATCH] " Wu Fengguang
2009-08-20  2:52 ` [PATCH] mm: make nr_scan_try_batch() more safe on races Wu Fengguang
2009-08-20  3:17   ` [RFC][PATCH] mm: remove unnecessary loop inside shrink_inactive_list() Wu Fengguang
2009-08-21 11:09     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-21 11:22       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-27  0:20         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-20  3:13 ` [PATCH] mm: do batched scans for mem_cgroup KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-20  4:05   ` [PATCH -v2] " Wu Fengguang
2009-08-20  4:06     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-20  5:16     ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2009-08-21  1:39       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-21  1:46         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-20 11:01     ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-20 11:49       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-20 12:13         ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-20 12:32           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-08-21  3:55     ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-21  7:27       ` [PATCH -v2 changelog updated] " Wu Fengguang
2009-08-21 10:57         ` KOSAKI Motohiro

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