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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] oom: move oom_adj to signal_struct
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:55:00 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090805155500.b4692b27.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090805153701.b4f4385e.minchan.kim@barrios-desktop>

On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:37:01 +0900
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmm. I can't understand why it is troublesome. 
> I think it's related to moving oom_adj to singal_struct. 
> Unfortunately, I can't understand why we have to put oom_adj 
> in singal_struct?
> 
> That's why I have a question to Kosaki a while ago. 
> I can't understand it still. :-(
> 
> Could you elaborate it ?
> 

Current code is as following
==
  do_each_thread(g,p) {
	......
	p = badness();

	record p of highest badness.
  }
  p = higest badness thread.

  Scan all threads which shares mm_struct of p. and check oom_adj
  
==	
Assume a process which has 20000 threads. And 1 of thread has OOM_DISABLE.

Then, at worst, this scan will needs
	(1+2+3+....+20000) * (20000-1) scan. (when ignoring other processes)
even with your patch.

This means the kernel wastes enough long time that Cluster-Management-Software can
detetct this as livelock, and do reboot/cluster-fail-over.

Fixing livelock is not the last goal. I (we) would like to reduct stall time
to reasonable level. If we move oom_adj to signal_struct or mm_struct, scan-cost
will be only 20000. No retry at all.

And, if we can use for_each_process() rather than do_each_thread(),
scan-cost will be 1.

(BTW, "signal" struct is bad name I think, it should be "process" struct ;)


Thanks,
-Kame

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-05  6:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-04 10:25 [PATCH for 2.6.31 0/4] fix oom_adj regression v2 KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-04 10:25 ` [PATCH 1/4] oom: move oom_adj to signal_struct KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-05  0:45   ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-05  2:29     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-05  2:40       ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-05  2:51         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-05  5:55           ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-05  6:03             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-05  6:37               ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-05  6:53                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-05  7:20                   ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-05  6:55                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2009-08-05  6:04             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-05  6:29               ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-05  6:47                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-06  1:34   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-06  5:16     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-04 10:26 ` [PATCH 2/4] oom: make oom_score to per-process value KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-04 10:27 ` [PATCH 3/4] oom: oom_kill doesn't kill vfork parent(or child) KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-04 10:28 ` [PATCH 4/4] oom: fix oom_adjust_write() input sanity check KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-05 23:33   ` Andrew Morton
2009-08-06  5:06     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-05 23:39 ` [PATCH for 2.6.31 0/4] fix oom_adj regression v2 Andrew Morton
2009-08-06  5:13   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-06  8:07     ` Minchan Kim

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