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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] oom: move oom_adj to signal_struct
Date: Wed,  5 Aug 2009 15:04:48 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090805150017.5BB9.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090805145516.b2129f81.minchan.kim@barrios-desktop>

> On Wed,  5 Aug 2009 11:51:31 +0900 (JST)
> KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> 
> > > On Wed,  5 Aug 2009 11:29:34 +0900 (JST)
> > > KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi, Kosaki. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am so late to invole this thread. 
> > > > > But let me have a question. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > What's advantage of placing oom_adj in singal rather than task ?
> > > > > I mean task->oom_adj and task->signal->oom_adj ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am sorry if you already discussed it at last threads. 
> > > > 
> > > > Not sorry. that's very good question.
> > > > 
> > > > I'm trying to explain the detailed intention of commit 2ff05b2b4eac
> > > > (move oom_adj to mm_struct).
> > > > 
> > > > In 2.6.30, OOM logic callflow is here.
> > > > 
> > > > __out_of_memory
> > > > 	select_bad_process		for each task
> > > > 		badness			calculate badness of one task
> > > > 	oom_kill_process		search child
> > > > 		oom_kill_task		kill target task and mm shared tasks with it
> > > > 
> > > > example, process-A have two thread, thread-A and thread-B and it 
> > > > have very fat memory.
> > > > And, each thread have following likes oom property.
> > > > 
> > > > 	thread-A: oom_adj = OOM_DISABLE, oom_score = 0
> > > > 	thread-B: oom_adj = 0,           oom_score = very-high
> > > > 
> > > > Then, select_bad_process() select thread-B, but oom_kill_task refuse
> > > > kill the task because thread-A have OOM_DISABLE.
> > > > __out_of_memory() call select_bad_process() again. but select_bad_process()
> > > > select the same task. It mean kernel fall in the livelock.
> > > > 
> > > > The fact is, select_bad_process() must select killable task. otherwise
> > > > OOM logic go into livelock.
> > > > 
> > > > Is this enough explanation? thanks.
> > > > 
> 
> The problem resulted from David patch.
> It can solve live lock problem but make a new problem like vfork problem. 
> I think both can be solved by different approach. 
> 
> It's just RFC. 
> 
> If some process is selected by OOM killer but it have a child of OOM immune,
> We just decrease point of process. It can affect selection of bad process. 
> After some trial, at last bad score is drastically low and another process is 
> selected by OOM killer. So I think Live lock don't happen. 
> 
> New variable adding in task struct is rather high cost. 
> But i think we can union it with oomkilladj 
> since oomkilladj is used to present just -17 ~ 15. 
> 
> What do you think about this approach ?

I can ack this. but please re-initialize oom_scale_down at fork and
exec time.
currently oom_scale_down makes too big affect.

and, May I ask which you hate my approach? 

> 
> ----
> 
> This is based on 2.6.30 which is kernel before applying David Patch. 
> 
> diff --git a/include/linux/sched.h b/include/linux/sched.h
> index b4c38bc..6e195f7 100644
> --- a/include/linux/sched.h
> +++ b/include/linux/sched.h
> @@ -1150,6 +1150,11 @@ struct task_struct {
>          */
>         unsigned char fpu_counter;
>         s8 oomkilladj; /* OOM kill score adjustment (bit shift). */
> +       /*
> +        * If OOM kill happens at one process repeately, 
> +        * oom_sacle_down will be increased to prevent OOM live lock 
> +        */
> +       unsigned int oom_scale_down;
>  #ifdef CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IO_TRACE
>         unsigned int btrace_seq;
>  #endif
> diff --git a/mm/oom_kill.c b/mm/oom_kill.c
> index a7b2460..3592786 100644
> --- a/mm/oom_kill.c
> +++ b/mm/oom_kill.c
> @@ -159,6 +159,11 @@ unsigned long badness(struct task_struct *p, unsigned long uptime)
>                         points >>= -(p->oomkilladj);
>         }
>  
> +       /*
> +        * adjust the score by number of OOM kill retrial
> +        */
> +       points >>= p->oom_scale_down;
> +
>  #ifdef DEBUG
>         printk(KERN_DEBUG "OOMkill: task %d (%s) got %lu points\n",
>         p->pid, p->comm, points);
> @@ -367,8 +372,10 @@ static int oom_kill_task(struct task_struct *p)
>          * Don't kill the process if any threads are set to OOM_DISABLE
>          */
>         do_each_thread(g, q) {
> -               if (q->mm == mm && q->oomkilladj == OOM_DISABLE)
> +               if (q->mm == mm && q->oomkilladj == OOM_DISABLE) {
> +                       p->oom_scale_down++;
>                         return 1;
> +               }
>         } while_each_thread(g, q);
>  
>         __oom_kill_task(p, 1);
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Kind regards,
> Minchan Kim
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-05  6:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-04 10:25 [PATCH for 2.6.31 0/4] fix oom_adj regression v2 KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-04 10:25 ` [PATCH 1/4] oom: move oom_adj to signal_struct KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-05  0:45   ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-05  2:29     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-05  2:40       ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-05  2:51         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-05  5:55           ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-05  6:03             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-05  6:37               ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-05  6:53                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-05  7:20                   ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-05  6:55                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-05  6:04             ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2009-08-05  6:29               ` Minchan Kim
2009-08-05  6:47                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-06  1:34   ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-08-06  5:16     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-04 10:26 ` [PATCH 2/4] oom: make oom_score to per-process value KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-04 10:27 ` [PATCH 3/4] oom: oom_kill doesn't kill vfork parent(or child) KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-04 10:28 ` [PATCH 4/4] oom: fix oom_adjust_write() input sanity check KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-05 23:33   ` Andrew Morton
2009-08-06  5:06     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-05 23:39 ` [PATCH for 2.6.31 0/4] fix oom_adj regression v2 Andrew Morton
2009-08-06  5:13   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-06  8:07     ` Minchan Kim

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