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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [patch -mm v2] mm: introduce oom_adj_child
Date: Mon,  3 Aug 2009 21:32:40 +0900 (JST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090803212945.CC2F.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0908030050160.30778@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

Hi

Sorry for queue jumping. I have one question.


> > >  - /proc/pid/oom_score is inconsistent when the thread that set the
> > >    effective per-mm oom_adj exits and it is now obsolete since you have
> > >    no way to determine what the next effective oom_adj value shall be.
> > > 
> > plz re-caluculate it. it's not a big job if done in lazy way.
> > 
> 
> You can't recalculate it if all the remaining threads have a different 
> oom_adj value than the effective oom_adj value from the thread that is now 
> exited.  There is no assumption that, for instance, the most negative 
> oom_adj value shall then be used.  Imagine the effective oom_adj value 
> being +15 and a thread sharing the same memory has an oom_adj value of 
> -16.  Under no reasonable circumstance should the oom preference of the 
> entire thread then change to -16 just because its the side-effect of a 
> thread exiting.

Why do we need recaluculate AT thread exiting time?
it is only used when oom_score is readed or actual OOM happend.
both those are slow-path.


> 
> That's the _entire_ reason why we need consistency in oom_adj values so 
> that userspace is aware of how the oom killer really works and chooses 
> tasks.  I understand that it differs from the previously allowed behavior, 
> but those userspace applications need to be fixed if, for no other reason, 
> they are now consistent with how the oom killer kills tasks.  I think 
> that's a very worthwhile goal and the cost of moving to a new interface 
> such as /proc/pid/oom_adj_child to have the same inheritance property that 
> was available in the past is justified.



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-03 12:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-29  4:27 David Rientjes
2009-07-29 23:13 ` Andrew Morton
2009-07-29 23:25   ` Paul Menage
2009-07-30  2:32 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-30  7:06   ` David Rientjes
2009-07-31  6:47     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-31  9:31       ` David Rientjes
2009-08-03 11:58         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-03 12:12           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-30  9:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-30  9:31   ` David Rientjes
2009-07-30 10:02     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-30 19:05       ` David Rientjes
2009-07-31  0:33         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-31  6:50           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-31 19:38             ` David Rientjes
2009-08-03 12:16               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-07-31  9:36           ` David Rientjes
2009-07-31 10:49             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-31 19:18               ` David Rientjes
2009-08-01  1:10                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-01 20:26                   ` David Rientjes
2009-08-03  1:42                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-03  7:59                       ` David Rientjes
2009-08-03  8:02                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-03  8:08                           ` David Rientjes
2009-08-03  8:45                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-03  8:55                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-08-03 12:19                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-03 12:32                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2009-08-03 12:21                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-08-03 16:17                     ` Paul Menage

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