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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, lizf@cn.fujitsu.com,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/5] Memory controller soft limit patches (v8)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:53:40 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090710135340.97b82f17.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090709171441.8080.85983.sendpatchset@balbir-laptop>

On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:44:41 +0530
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> 
> From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> 
> New Feature: Soft limits for memory resource controller.
> 
> Here is v8 of the new soft limit implementation. Soft limits is a new feature
> for the memory resource controller, something similar has existed in the
> group scheduler in the form of shares. The CPU controllers interpretation
> of shares is very different though. 
> 
> Soft limits are the most useful feature to have for environments where
> the administrator wants to overcommit the system, such that only on memory
> contention do the limits become active. The current soft limits implementation
> provides a soft_limit_in_bytes interface for the memory controller and not
> for memory+swap controller. The implementation maintains an RB-Tree of groups
> that exceed their soft limit and starts reclaiming from the group that
> exceeds this limit by the maximum amount.
> 
> v8 has come out after a long duration, we were held back by bug fixes
> (most notably swap cache leak fix) and Kamezawa-San has his series of
> patches for soft limits. Kamezawa-San asked me to refactor these patches
> to make the data structure per-node-per-zone.
> 
> TODOs
> 
> 1. The current implementation maintains the delta from the soft limit
>    and pushes back groups to their soft limits, a ratio of delta/soft_limit
>    might be more useful
> 2. Small optimizations that I intend to push in v9, if the v8 design looks
>    good and acceptable.
> 
> Tests
> -----
> 
> I've run two memory intensive workloads with differing soft limits and
> seen that they are pushed back to their soft limit on contention. Their usage
> was their soft limit plus additional memory that they were able to grab
> on the system. Soft limit can take a while before we see the expected
> results.
> 

Before pointing out nitpicks, here are my impressions.
 
 1. seems good in general.

 2. Documentation is not enough. I think it's necessary to write "excuse" as
    "soft-limit is built on complex memory management system's behavior, then,
     this may not work as you expect. But in many case, this works well.
     please take this as best-effort service" or some.

 3. Using "jiffies" again is not good. plz use other check or event counter.

 4. I think it's better to limit soltlimit only against root of hierarcy node.
    (use_hierarchy=1) I can't explain how the system works if several soft limits
    are set to root and its children under a hierarchy.

 5. I'm glad if you extract patch 4/5 as an independent clean up patch.

 6. no overheads ?

other comments to each patch.

Thanks,
-Kame


> Please review, comment.
> 
> Series
> ------
> 
> memcg-soft-limits-documentation.patch
> memcg-soft-limits-interface.patch
> memcg-soft-limits-organize.patch
> memcg-soft-limits-refactor-reclaim-bits
> memcg-soft-limits-reclaim-on-contention.patch
> 
> 
> -- 
> 	Balbir
> 

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-07-10  4:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-09 17:14 Balbir Singh
2009-07-09 17:14 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/5] Memory controller soft limit documentation (v8) Balbir Singh
2009-07-10  5:32   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-10  6:48     ` Balbir Singh
2009-07-09 17:14 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/5] Memory controller soft limit interface (v8) Balbir Singh
2009-07-09 17:15 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/5] Memory controller soft limit organize cgroups (v8) Balbir Singh
2009-07-10  5:21   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-10  6:47     ` Balbir Singh
2009-07-10  7:16       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-10  8:05     ` Balbir Singh
2009-07-10  8:14       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-10  8:20         ` Balbir Singh
2009-07-09 17:15 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/5] Memory controller soft limit refactor reclaim flags (v8) Balbir Singh
2009-07-09 17:15 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/5] Memory controller soft limit reclaim on contention (v8) Balbir Singh
2009-07-10  5:30   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-10  6:53     ` Balbir Singh
2009-07-10  7:30       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-10  7:49         ` Balbir Singh
2009-07-10 10:56           ` Balbir Singh
2009-07-10 14:15             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-10 14:22               ` Balbir Singh
2009-07-10  4:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2009-07-10  5:53   ` [RFC][PATCH 0/5] Memory controller soft limit patches (v8) Balbir Singh

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