From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
npiggin@suse.de,
"hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk" <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
avi@redhat.com,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/4] get_user_pages READ fault handling special cases
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:03:44 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090708090344.aa54a008.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0907070931340.3210@localhost.localdomain>
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:50:19 -0700 (PDT)
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> >
> > Now, get_user_pages(READ) can return ZERO_PAGE but it creates some trouble.
> > This patch is a workaround for each callers.
> > - mlock() ....ignore ZERO_PAGE if found. This happens only when mlock against
> > read-only mapping finds zero pages.
> > - futex() ....if ZERO PAGE is found....BUG ?(but possible...)
> > - lookup_node() .... no good idea..this is the same behavior to 2.6.23 age.
>
> Gaah. None of these special cases seem at all valid.
>
ya, this patch is for hearing how-to.
> I _like_ ZERO_PAGE(), but I always liked it mainly with the whole
> "PAGE_RESERVED" flag.
>
ok.
> And I think that if we resurrect zero-page, then we should do it with the
> modern equivalent of PAGE_RESERVED, namely the "pte_special()" bit.
> Anybody who walks page tables had better already handle special PTE
> entries (or we could trivially extend them - in case they currently just
> look at the vm_flags and decide that the range can have no special pages).
>
Hm, ok. I'll remove pte_zero and use pte_special instead of it.
> So I'd suggest instead:
>
> - always mark the zero page with PTE_SPECIAL. This avoids the constant
> page count updates - that's what PTE_SPECIAL means, after all.
>
> The page count updates was what killed ZERO_PAGE. It's wonderful for
> cache behaviour _other_ than the ping-pong of having to modify the
> "struct page".
>
yes.
> - for architectures that don't have the PTE_SPECIAL bit in the page
> tables, we don't do the magic zero page at all.
>
ok.
> - for architectures that have virtual caches and cannot handle a single
> zero page well (eg the mess we had with MIPS and muliple zero-pages),
> also simply don't do it, at least not initially.
>
ok. will add config check in do_anonymous_page as
#ifdef CONIFG_ARCH_USE_ZEROPAGE
static int do_zeromap_anon_private()
{
......
}
#else
static int do_zeromap_anon_private()
{
return false;
}
#endif
> - for the rest, depend on pte_special().
>
sure.
> - pass down the fault flags to "vm_normal_page()", and let one of the
> bits in there say "I want the zero-page". That way "get_user_pages()"
> can just treat the zero page as a normal page (it's read-only, of
> course, but we check the page tables, so that's ok). We'd increment the
> page count there, but nowhere else (we _need_ to increment the zero
> page count there, since it will be decremented at free time, and we've
> lost the page table entry that says that the "struct page *" is
> special).
>
ok. not far from this patch series except for pte_zero() v.s. pte_special().
> With something like the above, there really shouldn't be a lot of
> special-case code. None of these games with mlock etc. Nothing should
> _ever_ need to test "is_zero_page()", because the only thing that does so
> is vm_normal_page() - and if that one returns the "struct page *", then
> it's going to be considered a normal page, nothing special.
>
> That's how the _original_ ZERO_PAGE worked. It had pretty much no special
> case logic. It was basically treated as an IO page from an allocation
> standpoint, thanks to the PG_Reserved bit, but other than that nobody
> really cared.
>
About above 3 cases
- mlock() case .... yes, pte_special/PG_reserved will work well.
- mempolicy case ... This was broken even in original ZERO_PAGE, I think.
I ignore this for now.
- futex case .... my mistake. I missed that I should handle
VM_SHARED|VM_MAYSHARE(i.e. not private) case and avoid
ZERO_PAGE for such vmas. I'll remove this.
By using pte_special(), the whole patch size will be reduced. let me try v3.
Thanks,
-Kame
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-08 0:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-07 7:51 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] ZERO PAGE again v2 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-07 7:52 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] introduce pte_zero() KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-07 7:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/4] use ZERO_PAGE for READ fault in regular anonymous mapping KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-07 7:59 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/4] get_user_pages READ fault handling special cases KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-07 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-08 0:03 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2009-07-08 1:38 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-08 2:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-07 8:01 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/4] add get user pages nozero KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-07 8:47 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] ZERO PAGE again v2 Nick Piggin
2009-07-07 9:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-07 9:18 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-07 9:26 ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-07 9:06 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-07 14:00 ` Nick Piggin
2009-07-07 16:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-08 6:21 ` Nick Piggin
2009-07-08 16:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-09 7:47 ` Nick Piggin
2009-07-09 17:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-10 2:09 ` Nick Piggin
2009-07-10 3:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-07-10 3:51 ` Nick Piggin
2009-07-08 17:32 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-07-09 1:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-10 11:18 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-07-10 13:42 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-07-10 14:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-10 15:16 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-07-10 15:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-10 17:09 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-07-13 6:46 ` Nick Piggin
2009-07-13 7:24 ` Nick Piggin
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