From: Yasunori Goto <y-goto@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: yakui <yakui.zhao@intel.com>, "Li, Shaohua" <shaohua.li@intel.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"mel@csn.ul.ie" <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: + memory-hotplug-alloc-page-from-other-node-in-memory-online.patch added to -mm tree
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:59:19 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090702144415.8B21.E1E9C6FF@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090702102208.ff480a2d.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:11:13 +0800
> yakui <yakui.zhao@intel.com> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 01:22 +0800, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, yakui wrote:
> > >
> > > > If we can't allocate memory from other node when there is no memory on
> > > > this node, we will have to do something like the bootmem allocator.
> > > > After the memory page is added to the system memory, we will have to
> > > > free the memory space used by the memory allocator. At the same time we
> > > > will have to assure that the hot-plugged memory exists physically.
> > >
> > > The bootmem allocator must stick around it seems. Its more like a node
> > > bootstrap allocator then.
> > >
> > > Maybe we can generalize that. The bootstrap allocator may only need to be
> > > able boot one node (which simplifies design). During system bringup only
> > > the boot node is brought up.
> > >
> > > Then the other nodes are hotplugged later all in turn using the bootstrap
> > > allocator for their node setup?
> > Your idea looks fragrant. But it seems that it is difficult to realize.
> > In the boot phase the bootmem allocator is initialized. And after the
> > page buddy mechanism is enabled, the memory space used by bootmem
> > allocator will be freed.
> >
> > If we also do the similar thing for the hotplugged node, how and when to
> > free the memory space used by the bootstrap allocator? It seems that we
> > will have to wait before all the memory sections are onlined for this
> > hotplugged node. And before all the memory sections are onlined, the
> > bootstrap allocator and buddy page allocator will co-exist.
> >
>
> When I was an eager developper of memory hotplug, I planned that.
> A special page allocater which works from allocating pgdat until memmap setup.
> But there were problems.
> example)
> 1. We wanted to reuse bootmem.c but it was difficult.
> 2. IBM guys uses 16MB section. Then, they cannot allocate local pgdat/memmap
> as other platform which have larger section size.
> 3. At memory hotplug, "memory section which includes pgdat for a node should be
> removed after all other sections on the node are removed"
> There is the same problem to memmap.
>
> Because current memory hotplug works sane and above problem was too complicated for
> me, I stopped. But there are more NUMAs than we implemented memory hotplug initially.
> I hope someone fixes this mis-allocation problem.
>
> IIUC, "3" is the worst problem. It creates dependency among memory.
I made tiny basic functions to make it 1 or 2 years ago.
get_page_bootmem() record section/node id or counting up
how many other pages use it. It would be used for dependency
checking when removing memory.
I was going to make new allocator with those information.
(put_page_bootmem() is to free them.)
However, I don't enough time for memory hotplug now,
and they are just redundant functions now.
If someone create new allocator (and unifying bootmem allocator),
I'm very glad. :-)
Bye.
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Yasunori Goto
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[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.1.10.0906291804340.21956@gentwo.org>
2009-06-30 0:47 ` Shaohua Li
2009-07-01 2:55 ` Shaohua Li
2009-07-01 3:39 ` yakui
2009-07-01 17:22 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-07-02 1:11 ` yakui
2009-07-02 1:22 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-02 5:59 ` Yasunori Goto [this message]
2009-07-02 13:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-07-02 23:55 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-03 9:12 ` Shaohua Li
2009-07-05 23:47 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
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