From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH for mmotm 2/5]
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:50:06 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090611204208.6D6B.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090611111341.GE7302@csn.ul.ie>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 07:26:48PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> > Changes since Wu's original patch
> > - adding vmstat
> > - rename NR_TMPFS_MAPPED to NR_SWAP_BACKED_FILE_MAPPED
> >
> >
> > ----------------------
> > Subject: [PATCH] introduce NR_SWAP_BACKED_FILE_MAPPED zone stat
>
> This got lost in the actual subject line.
>
> > Desirable zone reclaim implementaion want to know the number of
> > file-backed and unmapped pages.
> >
>
> There needs to be more justification for this. We need an example
> failure case that this addresses. For example, Patch 1 of my series was
> to address the following problem included with the patchset leader
>
> "The reported problem was that malloc() stalled for a long time (minutes
> in some cases) if a large tmpfs mount was occupying a large percentage of
> memory overall. The pages did not get cleaned or reclaimed by zone_reclaim()
> because the zone_reclaim_mode was unsuitable, but the lists are uselessly
> scanned frequencly making the CPU spin at near 100%."
>
> We should have a similar case.
>
> What "desirable" zone_reclaim() should be spelled out as well. Minimally
> something like
>
> "For zone_reclaim() to be efficient, it must be able to detect in advance
> if the LRU scan will reclaim the necessary pages with the limitations of
> the current zone_reclaim_mode. Otherwise, the CPU usage is increases as
> zone_reclaim() uselessly scans the LRU list.
>
> The problem with the heuristic is ....
>
> This patch fixes the heuristic by ...."
>
> etc?
>
> I'm not trying to be awkward. I believe I provided similar reasoning
> with my own patchset.
You are right. my intention is not actual issue, it only fix
documentation lie.
Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt says
=============================================================
min_unmapped_ratio:
This is available only on NUMA kernels.
A percentage of the total pages in each zone. Zone reclaim will only
occur if more than this percentage of pages are file backed and unmapped.
This is to insure that a minimal amount of local pages is still available for
file I/O even if the node is overallocated.
The default is 1 percent.
==============================================================
but actual code don't account "percentage of file backed and unmapped".
Administrator can't imazine current implementation form this documentation.
Plus, I don't think this patch is too messy. thus I did decide to make
this fix.
if anyone provide good documentation fix, my worry will vanish.
> > Thus, we need to know number of swap-backed mapped pages for
> > calculate above number.
> >
> >
> > Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
> > Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> > Signed-off-by: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
> > ---
> > include/linux/mmzone.h | 2 ++
> > mm/rmap.c | 7 +++++++
> > mm/vmstat.c | 1 +
> > 3 files changed, 10 insertions(+)
> >
> > Index: b/include/linux/mmzone.h
> > ===================================================================
> > --- a/include/linux/mmzone.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/mmzone.h
> > @@ -88,6 +88,8 @@ enum zone_stat_item {
> > NR_ANON_PAGES, /* Mapped anonymous pages */
> > NR_FILE_MAPPED, /* pagecache pages mapped into pagetables.
> > only modified from process context */
> > + NR_SWAP_BACKED_FILE_MAPPED, /* Similar to NR_FILE_MAPPED. but
> > + only account swap-backed pages */
> > NR_FILE_PAGES,
> > NR_FILE_DIRTY,
> > NR_WRITEBACK,
> > Index: b/mm/rmap.c
> > ===================================================================
> > --- a/mm/rmap.c
> > +++ b/mm/rmap.c
> > @@ -829,6 +829,10 @@ void page_add_file_rmap(struct page *pag
> > {
> > if (atomic_inc_and_test(&page->_mapcount)) {
> > __inc_zone_page_state(page, NR_FILE_MAPPED);
> > + if (PageSwapBacked(page))
> > + __inc_zone_page_state(page,
> > + NR_SWAP_BACKED_FILE_MAPPED);
> > +
> > mem_cgroup_update_mapped_file_stat(page, 1);
> > }
> > }
> > @@ -884,6 +888,9 @@ void page_remove_rmap(struct page *page)
> > __dec_zone_page_state(page, NR_ANON_PAGES);
> > } else {
> > __dec_zone_page_state(page, NR_FILE_MAPPED);
> > + if (PageSwapBacked(page))
> > + __dec_zone_page_state(page,
> > + NR_SWAP_BACKED_FILE_MAPPED);
> > }
> > mem_cgroup_update_mapped_file_stat(page, -1);
> > /*
> > Index: b/mm/vmstat.c
> > ===================================================================
> > --- a/mm/vmstat.c
> > +++ b/mm/vmstat.c
> > @@ -633,6 +633,7 @@ static const char * const vmstat_text[]
> > "nr_mlock",
> > "nr_anon_pages",
> > "nr_mapped",
> > + "nr_swap_backed_file_mapped",
> > "nr_file_pages",
> > "nr_dirty",
> > "nr_writeback",
> >
>
> Otherwise the patch seems reasonable.
>
> --
> Mel Gorman
> Part-time Phd Student Linux Technology Center
> University of Limerick IBM Dublin Software Lab
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-11 11:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-11 10:25 [PATCH for mmotm 0/5] introduce swap-backed-file-mapped count and fix vmscan-change-the-number-of-the-unmapped-files-in-zone-reclaim.patch KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-11 10:26 ` [PATCH for mmotm 1/5] cleanp page_remove_rmap() KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-11 11:01 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-11 23:21 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-11 10:26 ` [PATCH for mmotm 2/5] KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-11 11:13 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-11 11:50 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2009-06-12 10:22 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-11 23:29 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-11 10:27 ` [PATCH for mmotm 3/5] add Mapped(SwapBacked) field to /proc/meminfo KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-11 10:27 ` [PATCH for mmotm 4/5] adjust fields length of /proc/meminfo KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-11 10:28 ` [PATCH for mmotm 5/5] fix vmscan-change-the-number-of-the-unmapped-files-in-zone-reclaim.patch KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-11 11:15 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-11 10:38 ` [PATCH for mmotm 0/5] introduce swap-backed-file-mapped count and " Mel Gorman
2009-06-11 10:42 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-11 10:53 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-11 11:32 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
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