From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin.zhang@intel.com>,
"linuxram@us.ibm.com" <linuxram@us.ibm.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Reintroduce zone_reclaim_interval for when zone_reclaim() scans and fails to avoid CPU spinning at 100% on NUMA
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:14:40 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090610021440.GB6597@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090609150619.GT18380@csn.ul.ie>
On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 11:06:19PM +0800, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 09:38:04PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 05:40:50PM +0800, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > >
> > > Conceivably though, zone_reclaim_interval could automatically tune
> > > itself based on a heuristic like this if the administrator does not give
> > > a specific value. I think that would be an interesting follow on once
> > > we've brought back zone_reclaim_interval and get a feeling for how often
> > > it is actually used.
> >
> > Well I don't think that's good practice. There are heuristic
> > calculations all over the kernel. Shall we exporting parameters to
> > user space just because we are not absolutely sure? Or shall we ship
> > the heuristics and do adjustments based on feedbacks and only export
> > parameters when we find _known cases_ that cannot be covered by pure
> > heuristics?
> >
>
> Good question - I don't have a satisfactory answer but I intuitively find
> the zone_reclaim_interval easier to deal with than the heuristic. That said,
> I would prefer if neither was required.
Yes - can we rely on the (improved) accounting to make our "failure feedback"
patches unnecessary? :)
Thanks,
Fengguang
> In the patchset, I've added a counter for the number of times that the
> scan-avoidance heuristic fails. If the tmpfs problem has been resolved
> (patch with bug reporter, am awaiting test), I'll drop zone_reclaim_interval
> altogether and we'll use the counter to detect if/when this situation
> occurs again.
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Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-08 13:01 [PATCH 0/3] [RFC] Functional fix to zone_reclaim() and bring behaviour more in line with expectations Mel Gorman
2009-06-08 13:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] Reintroduce zone_reclaim_interval for when zone_reclaim() scans and fails to avoid CPU spinning at 100% on NUMA Mel Gorman
2009-06-08 13:31 ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-08 13:54 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-08 14:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-08 14:38 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-08 14:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-08 15:11 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-10 5:23 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-10 6:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-10 10:00 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-08 14:48 ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-09 8:08 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 1:58 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 8:14 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 8:25 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 8:31 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 9:07 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 9:40 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 13:38 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 15:06 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-10 2:14 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2009-06-10 9:54 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 7:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-09 8:18 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 8:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-09 9:42 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 9:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-09 9:59 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-09 10:44 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 10:50 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-08 13:01 ` [PATCH 2/3] Properly account for the number of page cache pages zone_reclaim() can reclaim Mel Gorman
2009-06-08 14:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-08 14:36 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 2:25 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 8:27 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 8:45 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 10:48 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 12:08 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 8:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-09 2:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 8:19 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-09 8:47 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-08 13:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] Do not unconditionally treat zones that fail zone_reclaim() as full Mel Gorman
2009-06-08 14:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-08 14:43 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 3:11 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 8:50 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 7:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-09 9:25 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 12:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-09 13:28 ` Mel Gorman
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