From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin.zhang@intel.com>,
"linuxram@us.ibm.com" <linuxram@us.ibm.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Reintroduce zone_reclaim_interval for when zone_reclaim() scans and fails to avoid CPU spinning at 100% on NUMA
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 09:58:22 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090609015822.GA6740@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1244466090-10711-2-git-send-email-mel@csn.ul.ie>
On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 09:01:28PM +0800, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On NUMA machines, the administrator can configure zone_reclaim_mode that is a
> more targetted form of direct reclaim. On machines with large NUMA distances,
> zone_reclaim_mode defaults to 1 meaning that clean unmapped pages will be
> reclaimed if the zone watermarks are not being met. The problem is that
> zone_reclaim() can be in a situation where it scans excessively without
> making progress.
>
> One such situation is where a large tmpfs mount is occupying a large
> percentage of memory overall. The pages do not get cleaned or reclaimed by
> zone_reclaim(), but the lists are uselessly scanned frequencly making the
> CPU spin at 100%. The scanning occurs because zone_reclaim() cannot tell
> in advance the scan is pointless because the counters do not distinguish
> between pagecache pages backed by disk and by RAM. The observation in
> the field is that malloc() stalls for a long time (minutes in some cases)
> when this situation occurs.
>
> Accounting for ram-backed file pages was considered but not implemented on
> the grounds it would be introducing new branches and expensive checks into
> the page cache add/remove patches and increase the number of statistics
> needed in the zone. As zone_reclaim() failing is currently considered a
> corner case, this seemed like overkill. Note, if there are a large number
> of reports about CPU spinning at 100% on NUMA that is fixed by disabling
> zone_reclaim, then this assumption is false and zone_reclaim() scanning
> and failing is not a corner case but a common occurance
>
> This patch reintroduces zone_reclaim_interval which was removed by commit
> 34aa1330f9b3c5783d269851d467326525207422 [zoned vm counters: zone_reclaim:
> remove /proc/sys/vm/zone_reclaim_interval] because the zone counters were
> considered sufficient to determine in advance if the scan would succeed.
> As unsuccessful scans can still occur, zone_reclaim_interval is still
> required.
Can we avoid the user visible parameter zone_reclaim_interval?
That means to introduce some heuristics for it. Since the whole point
is to avoid 100% CPU usage, we can take down the time used for this
failed zone reclaim (T) and forbid zone reclaim until (NOW + 100*T).
Thanks,
Fengguang
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Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-08 13:01 [PATCH 0/3] [RFC] Functional fix to zone_reclaim() and bring behaviour more in line with expectations Mel Gorman
2009-06-08 13:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] Reintroduce zone_reclaim_interval for when zone_reclaim() scans and fails to avoid CPU spinning at 100% on NUMA Mel Gorman
2009-06-08 13:31 ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-08 13:54 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-08 14:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-08 14:38 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-08 14:55 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-08 15:11 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-10 5:23 ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-10 6:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-10 10:00 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-08 14:48 ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-09 8:08 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 1:58 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2009-06-09 8:14 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 8:25 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 8:31 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 9:07 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 9:40 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 13:38 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 15:06 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-10 2:14 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-10 9:54 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 7:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-09 8:18 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 8:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-09 9:42 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 9:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-09 9:59 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-09 10:44 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 10:50 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-08 13:01 ` [PATCH 2/3] Properly account for the number of page cache pages zone_reclaim() can reclaim Mel Gorman
2009-06-08 14:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-08 14:36 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 2:25 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 8:27 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 8:45 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 10:48 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 12:08 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 8:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-09 2:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 8:19 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-09 8:47 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-08 13:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] Do not unconditionally treat zones that fail zone_reclaim() as full Mel Gorman
2009-06-08 14:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-08 14:43 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 3:11 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 8:50 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 7:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-09 9:25 ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-09 12:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-06-09 13:28 ` Mel Gorman
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