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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	"hugh@veritas.com" <hugh@veritas.com>,
	"riel@redhat.com" <riel@redhat.com>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"chris.mason@oracle.com" <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [13/16] HWPOISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM v3
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:24:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090602132441.GC6262@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090602132538.GK1065@one.firstfloor.org>

On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 03:25:38PM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 02:57:13PM +0200, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > > not a big deal and just avoids duplicating code. I attached an
> > > > (untested) patch.
> > > 
> > > Thanks. But the function in the patch is not doing the same what
> > > the me_pagecache_clean/dirty are doing. For once there is no error
> > > checking, as in the second try_to_release_page()
> > > 
> > > Then it doesn't do all the IO error and missing mapping handling.
> > 
> > Obviously I don't mean just use that single call for the entire
> > handler. You can set the EIO bit or whatever you like. The
> > "error handling" you have there also seems strange. You could
> > retain it, but the page is assured to be removed from pagecache.
> 
> The reason this code double checks is that someone could have 
> a reference (remember we can come in any time) we cannot kill immediately.

Can't kill what? The page is gone from pagecache. It may remain
other kernel references, but I don't see why this code will
consider this as a failure (and not, for example, a raised error
count).

 
> > > The page_mapped() check is useless because the pages are not 
> > > mapped here etc.
> > 
> > That's OK, it is a core part of the protocol to prevent
> > truncated pages from being mapped, so I like it to be in
> > that function.
> > 
> > (you are also doing extraneous page_mapped tests in your handler,
> > so surely your concern isn't from the perspective of this
> > error handler code)
> 
> We do page_mapping() checks, not page_mapped checks.
> 
> I know details, but ...

+static int me_pagecache_clean(struct page *p)
+{
+       if (!isolate_lru_page(p))
+               page_cache_release(p);
+
+       if (page_has_private(p))
+               do_invalidatepage(p, 0);
+       if (page_has_private(p) && !try_to_release_page(p, GFP_NOIO))
+               Dprintk(KERN_ERR "MCE %#lx: failed to release buffers\n",
+                       page_to_pfn(p));
+
+       /*
+        * remove_from_page_cache assumes (mapping && !mapped)
+        */
+       if (page_mapping(p) && !page_mapped(p)) {
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

+               remove_from_page_cache(p);
+               page_cache_release(p);
+       }
+
+       return RECOVERED;


> > > we would also need to duplicate most of the checking outside
> > > the function anyways and there wouldn't be any possibility
> > > to share the clean/dirty variants. If you insist I can
> > > do it, but I think it would be significantly worse code
> > > than before and I'm reluctant to do that.
> > 
> > I can write you the patch for that too if you like.
> 
> Ok I will write it, but I will add a comment saying that Nick forced
> me to make the code worse @)
> 
> It'll be fairly redundant at least.

If it's that bad, then I'll be happy to rewrite it for you.

 
> > > > if you already have other large ones.
> > > 
> > > That's unclear too.
> > 
> > You can't do much about most kernel pages, and dirty metadata pages
> > are both going to cause big problems. User pagetable pages. Lots of
> > stuff.
> 
> User page tables was on the todo list, these are actually relatively
> easy. The biggest issue is to detect them.
> 
> Metadata would likely need file system callbacks, which I would like to 
> avoid at this point.

So I just don't know why you argue the point that you have lots
of large holes left.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-03 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-27 20:12 [PATCH] [0/16] HWPOISON: Intro Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [1/16] HWPOISON: Add page flag for poisoned pages Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:35   ` Larry H.
2009-05-27 21:15   ` Alan Cox
2009-05-28  7:54     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 16:10       ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-29 16:37         ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 16:34           ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-29 18:24             ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 18:26               ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-29 18:42                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [2/16] HWPOISON: Export poison flag in /proc/kpageflags Andi Kleen
2009-05-29 16:37   ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [3/16] HWPOISON: Export some rmap vma locking to outside world Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [4/16] HWPOISON: Add support for poison swap entries v2 Andi Kleen
2009-05-28  8:46   ` Hidehiro Kawai
2009-05-28  9:11     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 10:42     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [5/16] HWPOISON: Add new SIGBUS error codes for hardware poison signals Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [6/16] HWPOISON: Add basic support for poisoned pages in fault handler v2 Andi Kleen
2009-05-29  4:15   ` Hidehiro Kawai
2009-05-29  6:28     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [7/16] HWPOISON: Add various poison checks in mm/memory.c Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [8/16] HWPOISON: x86: Add VM_FAULT_HWPOISON handling to x86 page fault handler Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [9/16] HWPOISON: Use bitmask/action code for try_to_unmap behaviour Andi Kleen
2009-05-28  7:27   ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28  8:03     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28  8:28       ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28  9:02         ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 12:26           ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [10/16] HWPOISON: Handle hardware poisoned pages in try_to_unmap Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [11/16] HWPOISON: Handle poisoned pages in set_page_dirty() Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [12/16] HWPOISON: check and isolate corrupted free pages Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [13/16] HWPOISON: The high level memory error handler in the VM v3 Andi Kleen
2009-05-28  8:26   ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28  9:31     ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 12:08       ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 13:45         ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 14:50           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-04  6:25             ` Nai Xia
2009-06-07 16:02               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-08 11:06                 ` Nai Xia
2009-06-08 12:31                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-08 14:46                     ` Nai Xia
2009-06-09  6:48                       ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 10:48                         ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:15                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 12:17                             ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-09 12:47                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-09 13:36                                 ` Nai Xia
2009-05-28 16:56           ` Russ Anderson
2009-05-30  6:42             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 11:39               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-01 18:19                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 12:05           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-01 18:51             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:10               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:34                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:37                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:55                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:03                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:20                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:19                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:46                             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:47                               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 14:05                                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:30                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:07                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28  9:59     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 10:11       ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 10:33         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 10:51           ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 11:03             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-05-28 12:15             ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 13:48               ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-28 12:23       ` Nick Piggin
2009-05-28 13:54         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-01 11:50           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-01 14:05             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-01 14:40               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 11:14                 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 12:19                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:51                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:33                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 10:21                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-06-01 21:11               ` Hugh Dickins
2009-06-01 21:41                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-01 18:32             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:00               ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 12:47                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 12:57                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:25                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:24                       ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-06-02 13:41                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:40                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:53                           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:06                             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 14:12                               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:21                                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 13:46                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:08                       ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 14:10                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 14:14                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 15:17                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 17:27                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-03  9:35                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 11:24                             ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-02 13:02                   ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-02 15:09                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-02 17:19                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-06-03  6:24                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-06-03 15:51               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-06-03 16:05                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [14/16] HWPOISON: FOR TESTING: Enable memory failure code unconditionally Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [15/16] HWPOISON: Add madvise() based injector for hardware poisoned pages v3 Andi Kleen
2009-05-27 20:12 ` [PATCH] [16/16] HWPOISON: Add simple debugfs interface to inject hwpoison on arbitary PFNs Andi Kleen

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