From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
"Larry H." <research@subreption.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
pageexec@freemail.hu,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/5] Support for sanitization flag in low-level page allocator
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 12:50:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090528125042.28c2676f@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090528090836.GB6715@elte.hu>
> > In most respects the benchmarks are pretty irrelevant - wiping
> > stuff has a performance cost, but its the sort of thing you only
> > want to do when you have a security requirement that needs it. At
> > that point the performance is secondary.
>
> Bechmarks, of course, are not irrelevant _at all_.
>
> So i'm asking for this "clear kernel stacks on freeing" aspect to be
> benchmarked thoroughly, as i expect it to have a negative impact -
> otherwise i'm NAK-ing this.
Ingo you are completely missing the point
The performance cost of such a security action are NIL when the feature
is disabled. So the performance cost in the general case is irrelevant.
If you need this kind of data wiping then the performance hit
is basically irrelevant, the security comes first. You can NAK it all you
like but it simply means that such users either have to apply patches or
run something else.
If it harmed general user performance you'd have a point - but its like
SELinux you don't have to use it if you don't need the feature. Which it
must be said is a lot better than much of the scheduler crud that has
appeared over time which you can't make go away.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-28 11:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-20 18:30 Larry H.
2009-05-20 20:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20 21:24 ` Larry H.
2009-05-21 15:21 ` Robin Holt
2009-05-21 18:43 ` Larry H.
2009-05-29 22:58 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-30 7:00 ` Larry H.
2009-05-30 7:12 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-30 7:35 ` Larry H.
2009-05-30 7:39 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-21 19:08 ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-21 19:26 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-21 19:56 ` Larry H.
2009-05-21 20:47 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-21 21:46 ` Larry H.
2009-05-21 22:47 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-22 11:22 ` Larry H.
2009-05-22 13:37 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-26 19:02 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-21 19:17 ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-21 19:30 ` Larry H.
2009-05-22 7:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-22 11:38 ` Larry H.
2009-05-22 13:39 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-22 18:03 ` Larry H.
2009-05-22 18:21 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-22 23:25 ` [PATCH] Support for kernel memory sanitization Larry H.
2009-05-22 23:52 ` Randy Dunlap
2009-05-22 23:40 ` [patch 0/5] Support for sanitization flag in low-level page allocator Larry H.
2009-05-23 8:09 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-23 15:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-23 18:21 ` [PATCH] Support for unconditional page sanitization Larry H.
2009-05-23 21:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-24 10:19 ` pageexec
2009-05-24 16:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-28 19:36 ` [patch 0/5] Support for sanitization flag in low-level page allocator Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-29 14:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-30 5:48 ` Larry H.
2009-05-30 10:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-30 10:43 ` Larry H.
2009-05-30 11:42 ` pageexec
2009-05-30 13:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-30 13:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-30 13:54 ` pageexec
2009-05-30 14:04 ` Larry H.
2009-05-30 14:13 ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-30 14:08 ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-30 14:30 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-30 14:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-30 14:48 ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-30 17:00 ` Larry H.
2009-05-30 17:25 ` Larry H.
2009-05-30 18:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-06-05 13:15 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-31 14:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-31 15:03 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-22 18:37 ` Nai Xia
2009-05-22 19:18 ` Nai Xia
2009-05-23 12:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-23 22:28 ` Larry H.
2009-05-23 22:42 ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-25 1:17 ` [PATCH] Sanitize memory on kfree() and kmem_cache_free() Larry H.
2009-05-27 22:34 ` [patch 0/5] Support for sanitization flag in low-level page allocator Ingo Molnar
2009-05-28 6:27 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-28 7:00 ` Larry H.
2009-05-28 9:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-28 11:50 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2009-05-28 19:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-30 7:35 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-30 7:50 ` Larry H.
2009-05-30 7:53 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-30 8:20 ` Larry H.
2009-05-30 8:33 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-30 15:05 ` Ray Lee
2009-05-30 17:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-30 18:03 ` Larry H.
2009-05-30 18:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-30 18:45 ` Larry H.
2009-05-30 19:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-30 20:39 ` Rik van Riel
2009-05-30 20:53 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-30 21:33 ` Larry H.
2009-05-30 23:13 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-30 23:18 ` Larry H.
2009-05-31 6:30 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-31 11:49 ` Larry H.
2009-05-31 7:17 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-31 11:58 ` Larry H.
2009-05-31 12:16 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-31 12:30 ` Larry H.
2009-05-31 12:35 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-30 23:10 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-31 6:14 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-31 10:24 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-31 10:24 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-31 12:16 ` Larry H.
2009-05-31 12:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-31 16:25 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-30 22:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-30 23:15 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-30 20:22 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-30 22:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-30 17:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-30 7:57 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-30 9:05 ` Larry H.
2009-05-30 17:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-30 18:09 ` Larry H.
2009-05-30 8:31 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-30 8:35 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-05-30 9:27 ` Larry H.
2009-05-28 18:48 ` pageexec
2009-05-30 17:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-28 12:48 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-28 12:55 ` Larry H.
2009-05-28 18:56 pageexec
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