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From: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
To: Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Serge Hallyn <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v16][PATCH 23/43] c/r: restart multiple processes
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 23:37:58 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090527193758.GC31930@x200.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1243445589-32388-24-git-send-email-orenl@cs.columbia.edu>

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 01:32:49PM -0400, Oren Laadan wrote:
> Restarting of multiple processes expects all restarting tasks to call
> sys_restart(). Once inside the system call, each task will restart
> itself at the same order that they were saved. The internals of the
> syscall will take care of in-kernel synchronization bewteen tasks.
> 
> This patch does _not_ create the task tree in the kernel. Instead it
> assumes that all tasks are created in some way and then invoke the
> restart syscall. You can use the userspace mktree.c program to do
> that.
> 
> The init task (*) has a special role: it allocates the restart context
> (ctx), and coordinates the operation. In particular, it first waits
> until all participating tasks enter the kernel, and provides them the
> common restart context. Once everyone in ready, it begins to restart
> itself.
> 
> In contrast, the other tasks enter the kernel, locate the init task (*)
> and grab its restart context, and then wait for their turn to restore.
> 
> When a task (init or not) completes its restart, it hands the control
> over to the next in line, by waking that task.
> 
> An array of pids (the one saved during the checkpoint) is used to
> synchronize the operation. The first task in the array is the init
> task (*). The restart context (ctx) maintain a "current position" in
> the array, which indicates which task is currently active. Once the
> currently active task completes its own restart, it increments that
> position and wakes up the next task.
> 
> Restart assumes that userspace provides meaningful data, otherwise
> it's garbage-in-garbage-out. In this case, the syscall may block
> indefinitely, but in TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE, so the user can ctrl-c or
> otherwise kill the stray restarting tasks.
> 
> In terms of security, restart runs as the user the invokes it, so it
> will not allow a user to do more than is otherwise permitted by the
> usual system semantics and policy.
> 
> Currently we ignore threads and zombies

Let's discuss threads and zombies.

1. Will zombie end up in a image?
2. If yes, how it will be restored. Will it be forked, call restart(2)
   and then somehow zombified inside kernel?
3. How thread group will be restored, will every thread be CLONE_THREAD'ed?
   What to do with exited thread group leaders, will they be forked, then
   CLONE_THREAD thread group?

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-27 19:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-27 17:32 [RFC v16][PATCH 00/43] Kernel based checkpoint/restart Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 01/43] c/r: extend arch_setup_additional_pages() Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 02/43] c/r: make file_pos_read/write() public Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 03/43] c/r: create syscalls: sys_checkpoint, sys_restart Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 04/43] c/r: documentation Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 05/43] c/r: basic infrastructure for checkpoint/restart Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 06/43] c/r: x86_32 support " Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 07/43] c/r: infrastructure for shared objects Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 08/43] c/r: introduce '->checkpoint()' method in 'struct file_operations' Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 09/43] c/r: dump open file descriptors Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 10/43] c/r: restore " Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 11/43] c/r: add generic '->checkpoint' f_op to ext fses Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 12/43] c/r: add generic '->checkpoint()' f_op to simple devices Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 13/43] c/r: introduce method '->checkpoint()' in struct vm_operations_struct Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 14/43] c/r: dump memory address space (private memory) Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 15/43] c/r: restore " Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 16/43] c/r: export shmem_getpage() to support shared memory Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 17/43] c/r: dump anonymous- and file-mapped- " Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 18/43] c/r: restore " Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 19/43] c/r: external checkpoint of a task other than ourself Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 21:19   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-05-27 22:32     ` Oren Laadan
2009-05-28 16:33       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 20/43] c/r: export functionality used in next patch for restart-blocks Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 21/43] c/r: restart-blocks Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 22/43] c/r: checkpoint multiple processes Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 23/43] c/r: restart " Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 19:37   ` Alexey Dobriyan [this message]
2009-05-27 21:38     ` Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 24/43] c/r: detect resource leaks for whole-container checkpoint Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 25/43] tee: don't return 0 when another task drains/fills a pipe Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 26/43] splice: added support for pipe-to-pipe splice() Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 27/43] c/r: support for open pipes Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 28/43] c/r: make ckpt_may_checkpoint_task() check each namespace individually Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 29/43] c/r: support for UTS namespace Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 30/43] c/r: stub implementation for IPC namespace Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 31/43] deferqueue: generic queue to defer work Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 32/43] c/r (ipc): allow allocation of a desired ipc identifier Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:32 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 33/43] c/r (ipc): helpers to save and restore kern_ipc_perm structures Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:33 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 34/43] c/r: save and restore ipc namespace basics Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:33 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 35/43] c/r (ipc): export interface from ipc/shm.c to delete ipc shm Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:33 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 36/43] c/r: support share-memory sysv-ipc Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:33 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 37/43] c/r (ipc): make 'struct msg_msgseg' visible in ipc/util.h Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:33 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 38/43] c/r: support message-queues sysv-ipc Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:33 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 39/43] c/r (ipc): export interface from ipc/sem.c to cleanup ipc sem Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:33 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 40/43] c/r: support semaphore sysv-ipc Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:33 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 41/43] c/r: (s390): expose a constant for the number of words (CRs) Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 18:39   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-05-27 17:33 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 42/43] c/r: add CKPT_COPY() macro Oren Laadan
2009-05-27 17:33 ` [RFC v16][PATCH 43/43] c/r: define s390-specific checkpoint-restart code Oren Laadan

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