From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
npiggin@suse.de, apw@shadowen.org, agl@us.ibm.com,
ebmunson@us.ibm.com, andi@firstfloor.org,
david@gibson.dropbear.id.au, kenchen@google.com,
wli@holomorphy.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
starlight@binnacle.cx, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Determine if mapping is MAP_SHARED using VM_MAYSHARE and not VM_SHARED in hugetlbfs
Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 10:56:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090527095607.GB633@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090527111652.688B.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:17:41PM +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
> Hi
>
> > > > follow_hugetlb_page
> > > > This is checking of the zero page can be shared or not. Crap,
> > > > this one looks like it should have been converted to VM_MAYSHARE
> > > > as well.
> > >
> > > Now, what makes you say that?
> > >
> > > I really am eager to understand, because I don't comprehend
> > > that VM_SHARED at all.
> >
> > I think I understand it, but I keep changing my mind on whether
> > VM_SHARED is sufficient or not.
> >
> > In this specific case, the zeropage must not be used by process A where
> > it's possible that process B has populated it with data. when I said "Crap"
> > earlier, the scenario I imagined went something like;
> >
> > o Process A opens a hugetlbfs file read/write but does not map the file
> > o Process B opens the same hugetlbfs read-only and maps it
> > MAP_SHARED. hugetlbfs allows mmaps to files that have not been ftruncate()
> > so it can fault pages without SIGBUS
> > o Process A writes the file - currently this is impossible as hugetlbfs
> > does not support write() but lets pretend it was possible
> > o Process B calls mlock() which calls into follow_hugetlb_page().
> > VM_SHARED is not set because it's a read-only mapping and it returns
> > the wrong page.
> >
> > This last step is where I went wrong. As process 2 had no PTE for that
> > location, it would have faulted the page as normal and gotten the correct
> > page and never considered the zero page so VM_SHARED was ok after all.
> >
> > But this is sufficiently difficult that I'm worried that there is some other
> > scenario where Process B uses the zero page when it shouldn't. Testing for
> > VM_MAYSHARE would prevent the zero page being used incorrectly whether the
> > mapping is read-only or read-write but maybe that's too paranoid.
> >
> > Kosaki, can you comment on what impact (if any) testing for VM_MAYSHARE
> > would have here with respect to core-dumping?
>
> Thank you for very kindful explanation.
>
> Perhaps, I don't understand this issue yet. Honestly I didn't think this
> issue at my patch making time.
>
> following is my current analysis. if I'm misunderstanding anythink, please
> correct me.
>
> hugepage mlocking call make_pages_present().
> above case, follow_page_page() don't use ZERO_PAGE because vma don't have
> VM_SHARED.
> but that's ok. make_pages_present's intention is not get struct page,
> it is to make page population. in this case, we need follow_hugetlb_page() call
> hugetlb_fault(), I think.
>
>
> In the other hand, when core-dump case
>
> .text segment: open(O_RDONLY) + mmap(MAP_SHARED)
> .data segment: open(O_RDONLY) + mmap(MAP_PRIVATE)
>
> it mean .text can't use ZERO_PAGE. but I think no problem. In general
> .text is smaller than .data. It doesn't make so slowness.
>
Ok, in that case, I'm going to leave VM_SHARED here alone rather than
switching it to VM_MAYSHARE. Right now, VM_SHARED appears to be covering
the cases we care about in this instance.
Thanks.
>
>
> > > I believe Kosaki-san's 4b2e38ad simply
> > > copied it from Linus's 672ca28e to mm/memory.c. But even back
> > > when that change was made, I confessed to having lost the plot
> > > on it: so far as I can see, putting a VM_SHARED test in there
> > > just happened to prevent some VMware code going the wrong way,
> > > but I don't see the actual justification for it.
> > >
> >
> > Having no idea how vmware broke exactly, I'm not sure what exactly was
> > fixed. Maybe by not checking VM_SHARED, it was possible that a caller of
> > get_user_pages() would not see updates made by a parallel writer.
> >
> > > So, given that I don't understand it in the first place,
> > > I can't really support changing that VM_SHARED to VM_MAYSHARE.
> > >
> >
> > Lets see what Kosaki says. If he's happy with VM_SHARED, I'll leave it
> > alone.
>
>
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University of Limerick IBM Dublin Software Lab
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-27 9:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-19 8:36 Mel Gorman
2009-05-20 10:12 ` Eric B Munson
2009-05-25 21:09 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-05-26 10:12 ` Mel Gorman
2009-05-26 12:54 ` Eric B Munson
2009-05-26 20:51 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-05-27 0:48 ` Mel Gorman
2009-05-27 3:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-05-27 9:56 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
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