From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>,
Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Chenfeng Xu <xcf@ustc.edu.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] readahead: introduce context readahead algorithm
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:11:42 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090414111142.GA8793@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090414105824.GA8628@localhost>
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 06:58:24PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 06:00:02PM +0800, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > I'll list some possible situations. I guess you are referring to (2.3)?
> >
> > Yep. Thanks for the detailed analysis.
>
> You are welcome :-)
>
> > > 2.3) readahead cache hits: rare case and the impact is temporary
> > >
> > > The page at @offset-1 does get referenced by this stream, but it's
> > > created by someone else at some distant time ago. The page at
> > > @offset-1 may be lifted to active lru by this second reference, or too
> > > late and get reclaimed - by the time we reference page @offset.
> > >
> > > Normally its a range of cached pages. We are a) either walking inside the
> > > range and enjoying the cache hits, b) or we walk out of it and restart
> > > readahead by ourself, c) or the range of cached pages get reclaimed
> > > while we are walking on them, and hence cannot find page @offset-1.
> > >
> > > Obviously (c) is rare and temporary and is the main cause of (2.3).
> > > As soon as we goto the next page at @offset+1, we'll its 'previous'
> > > page at @offset to be cached(it is created by us!). So the context
> > > readahead starts working again - it's merely delayed by one page :-)
> >
> > Thanks. The question is how much performance impact this has on
> > the stream that is readaheaded. I guess it would be only a smaller
> > "hickup", with some luck hidden by the block level RA?
No the block level RA wont help here, because there are no disk
accesses at all for the cached pages before @offset: the disk RA have
absolutely no idea on where the IO for page @offset originates from ;-)
> Yes there will be hickup: whenever the stream walks out of the current
> cached page range(or the pages get reclaimed while we are walking in it),
> there will be a 1-page read, followed by a 4-page readahead, and then 8,
> 16, ... page sized readahead, i.e. a readahead window rampup process.
>
> That's assuming we are doing 1-page reads. For large sendfile() calls,
> the readahead size will be instantly restored to its full size on the
> first cache miss.
>
> > The other question would be if it could cause the readahead code
> > to do a lot of unnecessary work, but your answer seems to be "no". Fine.
>
> Right. The readahead will automatically be turned off inside the
> cached page ranges, and restarted after walking out of it.
>
> > I think the concept is sound.
>
> ^_^ Thanks for your appreciation!
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Fengguang
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2009-04-12 12:35 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-16 17:12 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
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2009-04-14 9:27 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-14 10:00 ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-14 10:58 ` Wu Fengguang
2009-04-14 11:11 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
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