From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vmscan: memcg needs may_swap (Re: [patch] vmscan: rename sc.may_swap to may_unmap)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 18:11:20 +0900 (JST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090401180756.B1F1.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090401180445.80b11d90.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> memory cgroup has 2 calls to this shrink_zone.
> 1. memory usage hits the limit.
> 2. mem+swap usage hits the limit.
>
> At "2", swap-out doesn't decrease the usage of mem+swap, then set may_swap=0.
> So, we want to kick out only file caches.
> But, we can reclaim file cache and "unmap file cache and reclaim it!" is
> necessary even if may_swap=0.
>
> Then, scanning only FILE LRU makes sense at may_swap=0 *if* memcg is
> the only user of may_swap=0.
>
> Let's see others.
>
> - __zone_reclaim sets may_unmap to be 0 when they don't want swap-out.
> .....can be replaced with may_swap.
>
> - shrink_all_memory sets may_swap to be 0. Is this called by hibernation ?
> If you don't want to unmap file caches while hibernation, adding may_unmap
> as *new* paramter makes sense, I think.
>
> The change you proposed is for dropping unused SwapCache pages. Right ?
> But this will be dropped by kswapd if necessary.
>
> As far as memcg concerns, scanning ANON LRU even when may_swap=0 is just
> a waste of cpu time.
this sentence just explain my intention.
1. memcg, zone_reclaim scanning ANON LRU is just waste of cpu.
2. kswapd and normal direct reclaim can reclaim stealed swapcache anyway.
then above trick don't cause any system hang-up and performance degression.
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Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-06 3:11 [PATCH 0/3] [PATCH 0/3] swsusp: shrink file cache first Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 3:11 ` [PATCH 1/3] swsusp: clean up shrink_all_zones() Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 3:20 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-06 3:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] swsusp: dont fiddle with swappiness Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 3:21 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-06 3:11 ` [PATCH 3/3][RFC] swsusp: shrink file cache first Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 3:39 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-06 4:49 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 5:59 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-06 12:24 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-06 13:35 ` MinChan Kim
2009-02-06 17:15 ` MinChan Kim
2009-02-06 23:37 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-09 19:43 ` [patch] vmscan: rename sc.may_swap to may_unmap Johannes Weiner
2009-02-09 23:02 ` MinChan Kim
2009-02-10 10:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-27 6:19 ` [PATCH] vmscan: memcg needs may_swap (Re: [patch] vmscan: rename sc.may_swap to may_unmap) Daisuke Nishimura
2009-03-27 6:30 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-29 23:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-31 0:18 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-03-31 1:26 ` Minchan Kim
2009-03-31 1:42 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-31 1:48 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-01 4:09 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-04-01 5:08 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-04-01 9:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-01 9:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2009-04-01 9:49 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-04-01 9:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-04-01 16:03 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-03-31 1:52 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-02-06 21:00 ` [PATCH 3/3][RFC] swsusp: shrink file cache first Andrew Morton
2009-02-06 23:27 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-07 17:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-08 20:56 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-07 4:41 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-02-07 16:51 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-07 21:20 ` Nigel Cunningham
2009-02-27 13:27 ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-01 10:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-06 8:03 ` MinChan Kim
2009-02-06 10:06 ` MinChan Kim
2009-02-06 11:50 ` Johannes Weiner
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