From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
guichaz@gmail.com, Alex Khesin <alexk@google.com>,
Mike Waychison <mikew@google.com>,
Rohit Seth <rohitseth@google.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: ftruncate-mmap: pages are lost after writing to mmaped file.
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:35:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090324173511.GJ23439@duck.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090324154813.GH23439@duck.suse.cz>
On Tue 24-03-09 16:48:14, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Wed 25-03-09 02:03:54, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > On Wednesday 25 March 2009 01:47:09 Jan Kara wrote:
> > > On Wed 25-03-09 01:30:00, Nick Piggin wrote:
> >
> > > > I don't think it is a very good idea for block_write_full_page recovery
> > > > to do clear_buffer_dirty for !mapped buffers. I think that should rather
> > > > be a redirty_page_for_writepage in the case that the buffer is dirty.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps not the cleanest way to solve the problem if it is just due to
> > > > transient shortage of space in ext3, but generic code shouldn't be
> > > > allowed to throw away dirty data even if it can't be written back due
> > > > to some software or hardware error.
> > >
> > > Well, that would be one possibility. But then we'd be left with dirty
> > > pages we cannot ever release since they are constantly dirty (when the
> > > filesystem really becomes out of space). So what I
> >
> > If the filesystem becomes out of space and we have over-committed these
> > dirty mmapped blocks, then we most definitely want to keep them around.
> > An error of the system losing a few pages (or if it happens an insanely
> > large number of times, then slowly dying due to memory leak) is better
> > than an app suddenly seeing the contents of the page change to nulls
> > under it when the kernel decides to do some page reclaim.
> Hmm, probably you're right. Definitely it would be much easier to track
> the problem down than it is now... Thinking a bit more... But couldn't a
> malicious user bring the machine easily to OOM this way? That would be
> unfortunate.
OK, below is the patch which makes things work for me (i.e. no data
lost). What do you think?
Honza
--
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-24 17:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-18 19:44 Ying Han
2009-03-18 22:11 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-18 22:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-18 23:18 ` Ying Han
2009-03-18 23:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-18 23:54 ` Ying Han
2009-03-19 15:48 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-19 16:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-19 16:36 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-19 16:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-19 16:34 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-19 16:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-19 17:03 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-19 17:06 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-19 20:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-19 20:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-19 21:17 ` Ying Han
2009-03-19 22:16 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-19 16:46 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 7:44 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-24 10:27 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-24 10:32 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-24 15:35 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-26 18:29 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-26 0:03 ` Ying Han
2009-03-24 12:39 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 12:55 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 13:26 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 14:01 ` Chris Mason
2009-03-24 14:07 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-26 8:18 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2009-03-24 14:30 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-24 14:47 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 14:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-24 15:29 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 20:14 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-03-26 8:47 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2009-03-26 11:37 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-26 23:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-24 15:03 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-24 15:48 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 17:35 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2009-04-01 22:36 ` Ying Han
2009-04-02 10:11 ` Jan Kara
2009-04-02 11:24 ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 11:34 ` Jan Kara
2009-04-02 15:51 ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 17:44 ` Ying Han
2009-04-02 22:52 ` Ying Han
2009-04-02 23:39 ` Jan Kara
2009-04-03 0:25 ` Ying Han
2009-04-03 1:29 ` Ying Han
2009-04-03 9:41 ` Jan Kara
2009-04-03 21:34 ` Ying Han
2009-04-03 0:13 ` Ying Han
2009-03-27 20:35 ` Ying Han
2009-03-20 0:34 ` Ying Han
2009-03-20 0:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-20 7:00 ` Ying Han
2009-03-25 23:15 ` Ying Han
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