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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@mbligh.org>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	guichaz@gmail.com, Alex Khesin <alexk@google.com>,
	Mike Waychison <mikew@google.com>,
	Rohit Seth <rohitseth@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: ftruncate-mmap: pages are lost after writing to mmaped file.
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:35:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090324173511.GJ23439@duck.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090324154813.GH23439@duck.suse.cz>

On Tue 24-03-09 16:48:14, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Wed 25-03-09 02:03:54, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > On Wednesday 25 March 2009 01:47:09 Jan Kara wrote:
> > > On Wed 25-03-09 01:30:00, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > 
> > > > I don't think it is a very good idea for block_write_full_page recovery
> > > > to do clear_buffer_dirty for !mapped buffers. I think that should rather
> > > > be a redirty_page_for_writepage in the case that the buffer is dirty.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps not the cleanest way to solve the problem if it is just due to
> > > > transient shortage of space in ext3, but generic code shouldn't be
> > > > allowed to throw away dirty data even if it can't be written back due
> > > > to some software or hardware error.
> > >
> > >   Well, that would be one possibility. But then we'd be left with dirty
> > > pages we cannot ever release since they are constantly dirty (when the
> > > filesystem really becomes out of space). So what I
> > 
> > If the filesystem becomes out of space and we have over-committed these
> > dirty mmapped blocks, then we most definitely want to keep them around.
> > An error of the system losing a few pages (or if it happens an insanely
> > large number of times, then slowly dying due to memory leak) is better
> > than an app suddenly seeing the contents of the page change to nulls
> > under it when the kernel decides to do some page reclaim.
>   Hmm, probably you're right. Definitely it would be much easier to track
> the problem down than it is now... Thinking a bit more... But couldn't a
> malicious user bring the machine easily to OOM this way? That would be
> unfortunate.
  OK, below is the patch which makes things work for me (i.e. no data
lost). What do you think?

									Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-24 17:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-18 19:44 Ying Han
2009-03-18 22:11 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-18 22:40   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-18 23:18     ` Ying Han
2009-03-18 23:36       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-18 23:54         ` Ying Han
2009-03-19 15:48           ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-19 16:16             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-19 16:36               ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-19 16:20             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-19 16:34               ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-19 16:51                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-19 17:03                   ` Jan Kara
2009-03-19 17:06                     ` Jan Kara
2009-03-19 20:05                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-19 20:21                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-19 21:17                     ` Ying Han
2009-03-19 22:16                     ` Jan Kara
2009-03-19 16:46             ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24  7:44               ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-24 10:27                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-24 10:32                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-24 15:35                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-26 18:29                     ` Jan Kara
2009-03-26  0:03                   ` Ying Han
2009-03-24 12:39                 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 12:55                   ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 13:26                     ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 14:01                       ` Chris Mason
2009-03-24 14:07                         ` Jan Kara
2009-03-26  8:18                           ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2009-03-24 14:30                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-24 14:47                         ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 14:56                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-24 15:29                             ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 20:14                               ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2009-03-26  8:47                               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2009-03-26 11:37                                 ` Jan Kara
2009-03-26 23:02                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-24 15:03                           ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-24 15:48                             ` Jan Kara
2009-03-24 17:35                               ` Jan Kara [this message]
2009-04-01 22:36                                 ` Ying Han
2009-04-02 10:11                                   ` Jan Kara
2009-04-02 11:24                                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 11:34                                     ` Jan Kara
2009-04-02 15:51                                       ` Nick Piggin
2009-04-02 17:44                                         ` Ying Han
2009-04-02 22:52                                           ` Ying Han
2009-04-02 23:39                                             ` Jan Kara
2009-04-03  0:25                                               ` Ying Han
2009-04-03  1:29                                               ` Ying Han
2009-04-03  9:41                                                 ` Jan Kara
2009-04-03 21:34                                                   ` Ying Han
2009-04-03  0:13                                     ` Ying Han
2009-03-27 20:35                 ` Ying Han
2009-03-20  0:34     ` Ying Han
2009-03-20  0:49       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-03-20  7:00         ` Ying Han
2009-03-25 23:15     ` Ying Han

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