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From: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] memcg: handle swapcache leak
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:08:18 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090318090818.bdb5ca0e.nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090317162950.70c1245c.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:29:50 +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:11:13 +0900
> Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp> wrote:
> 
> 
> > > Hmm, but IHMO, this is not "leak". "leak" means the object will not be freed forever.
> > > This is a "delay".
> > > 
> > > And I tend to allow this. (stale SwapCache will be on LRU until global LRU found it,
> > > but it's not called leak.)
> > > 
> > You're right, but memcg's reclaim doesn't scan global LRU,
> > so these swapcaches cannot be free'ed by memcg's reclaim.
> > 
> right.
> 
> > This means that a system with memcg's memory pressure but without
> > global memory pressure can use up swap space as swapcaches, doesn't it ?
> > That's what I'm worrying about.
> > 
> This kind of behavior (don't add to LRU if !PageCgroupUsed()) is for swapin-readahead.
> We need this hebavior.
> 
> We never see the swap is exhausted by this issue .....but yes, not 0%.
> 
Just FYI.
I run 5 programs last night, which uses 8MB each, with mem.limit=32M
and 30MB swap on system.
All swap space are used up by swapcache and some programs are oom'ed.


Thanks,
Daisuke Nishimura.

> Without memcg, when the page is added to swap, global LRU runs, anyway.
> With memcg, when the page is added to swap, global LRU will not runs.
> 
> Give me time, I'll find a fix.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Kame
> 

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2009-03-18  0:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-17  4:57 Daisuke Nishimura
2009-03-17  5:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-17  6:11   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-03-17  7:29     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-17  9:38       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-18  1:17         ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-03-18  1:34           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-18  3:51             ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-03-18  4:05               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-18  8:57               ` [PATCH] fix unused/stale swap cache handling on memcg v1 (Re: " KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-18 14:17                 ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-03-18 23:45                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-19  2:16                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-19  9:06                       ` [PATCH] fix unused/stale swap cache handling on memcg v2 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-19 10:01                         ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-03-19 10:13                           ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-03-19 10:46                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-19 11:36                               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-20  7:45                                 ` [PATCH] fix unused/stale swap cache handling on memcg v3 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-23  1:45                                   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-03-23  2:41                                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-23  5:04                                       ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-03-23  5:22                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-24  8:32                                           ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-03-24 23:57                                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17  6:34                                               ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-04-17  6:54                                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17  7:50                                                   ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-04-17  7:58                                                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-17  8:12                                                       ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-04-17  8:13                                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-21  2:35                                                           ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-04-21  2:57                                                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-21  4:05                                                               ` Daisuke Nishimura
2009-04-17  8:11                                                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-18  0:08       ` Daisuke Nishimura [this message]

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