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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, YAMAMOTO Takashi <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>,
	lizf@cn.fujitsu.com,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] Memory controller soft limit reclaim on contention (v6)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:47:40 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090317124740.d8356d01.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090316121915.GB16897@balbir.in.ibm.com>

On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:49:15 +0530
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> * KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> [2009-03-16 20:58:30]:

> A run away application can do that. Like I mentioned with the tests I
> did for your patches. Soft limits were at 1G/2G and the applications
> (two) tried to touch all the memory in the system. The point is that
> shrink_slab() will be called if the normal system experiences
> watermark issues, soft limits will tackle/control cgroups running out
> of their soft limits and causing memory contention to take place.
> 
Ok, then, how about this ?

 Because our target is "softlimit" and not "memory shortage"
 - don't call soft limit from alloc_pages().
 - don't call soft limit from kswapd and others.
 
Instead of this, add sysctl like this.

  - vm.softlimit_ratio

If vm.softlimit_ratio = 99%, 
  when sum of all usage of memcg is over 99% of system memory,
  softlimit runs and reclaim memory until the whole usage will be below 99%.
   (or some other trigger can be considered.)

Then,
 - We don't have to take care of misc. complicated aspects of memory reclaiming
   We reclaim memory based on our own logic, then, no influence to global LRU.

I think this approach will hide the all corner case and make merging softlimit 
to mainline much easier. If you use this approach, RB-tree is the best one
to go with (and we don't have to care zone's status.)

Thanks,
-Kame

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-17  3:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-14 17:30 [PATCH 0/4] Memory controller soft limit patches (v6) Balbir Singh
2009-03-14 17:30 ` [PATCH 1/4] Memory controller soft limit documentation (v6) Balbir Singh
2009-03-14 17:30 ` [PATCH 2/4] Memory controller soft limit interface (v6) Balbir Singh
2009-03-14 17:31 ` [PATCH 3/4] Memory controller soft limit organize cgroups (v6) Balbir Singh
2009-03-16  0:21   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-16  8:47     ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-16  8:57       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-14 17:31 ` [PATCH 4/4] Memory controller soft limit reclaim on contention (v6) Balbir Singh
2009-03-16  0:52   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-16  8:35     ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-16  8:49       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-16  9:03         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-16  9:10           ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-16 11:10             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-16 11:38               ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-16 11:58                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-16 12:19                   ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-17  3:47                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2009-03-17  4:40                       ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-17  4:47                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-17  4:58                           ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-17  5:17                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-17  5:55                               ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-17  6:00                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-17  6:22                                   ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-17  6:30                                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-17  6:59                                       ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-18  0:07       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-18  4:14         ` Balbir Singh

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