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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, yamamoto@valinux.co.jp, lizf@cn.fujitsu.com,
	kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com, riel@redhat.com,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] Memory controller soft limit reclaim on contention (v5)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:23:35 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090313075335.GO16897@balbir.in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090312163425.5e43a0d4.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

* Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> [2009-03-12 16:34:25]:

> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:26:31 +0530
> Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > Feature: Implement reclaim from groups over their soft limit
> > 
> > From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> > 
> > Changelog v5...v4
> > 
> > 1. Throttling is removed, earlier we throttled tasks over their soft limit
> > 2. Reclaim has been moved back to __alloc_pages_internal, several experiments
> >    and tests showed that it was the best place to reclaim memory. kswapd has
> >    a different goal, that does not work with a single soft limit for the memory
> >    cgroup.
> > 3. Soft limit reclaim is more targetted and the pages reclaim depend on the
> >    amount by which the soft limit is exceeded.
> > 
> > Changelog v4...v3
> > 1. soft_reclaim is now called from balance_pgdat
> > 2. soft_reclaim is aware of nodes and zones
> > 3. A mem_cgroup will be throttled if it is undergoing soft limit reclaim
> >    and at the same time trying to allocate pages and exceed its soft limit.
> > 4. A new mem_cgroup_shrink_zone() routine has been added to shrink zones
> >    particular to a mem cgroup.
> > 
> > Changelog v3...v2
> > 1. Convert several arguments to hierarchical reclaim to flags, thereby
> >    consolidating them
> > 2. The reclaim for soft limits is now triggered from kswapd
> > 3. try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages() now accepts an optional zonelist argument
> > 
> > 
> > Changelog v2...v1
> > 1. Added support for hierarchical soft limits
> > 
> > This patch allows reclaim from memory cgroups on contention (via the
> > kswapd() path) only if the order is 0.
> 
> Why for order-0 only?
>

Mem cgroup does not allocate order > 1 pages.
 
> What are the implications of not handling higher-order pages?
> 
> Why kswapd only?
> 
> What are the implications of omitting this from direct reclaim?
> 
> > memory cgroup soft limit reclaim finds the group that exceeds its soft limit
> > by the largest amount and reclaims pages from it and then reinserts the
> > cgroup into its correct place in the rbtree.
> 
> Why trim the single worst-case group rather than (say) trimming all
> groups by a common proportion?  Or other things.
> 
> 
> When you say "by the largest amount", is that the "by largest number of
> pages" or "by the largest percentage"?
> 
> What are the implications of <whichever you chose>?
>

I'll update the changelog in the next post.

 
> >
> > ...
> >
> >  static int mem_cgroup_hierarchical_reclaim(struct mem_cgroup *root_mem,
> > -				   gfp_t gfp_mask, bool noswap, bool shrink)
> > +						struct zonelist *zl,
> > +						gfp_t gfp_mask,
> > +						unsigned long flags)
> >  {
> >  	struct mem_cgroup *victim;
> >  	int ret, total = 0;
> >  	int loop = 0;
> > +	bool noswap = flags & MEM_CGROUP_RECLAIM_NOSWAP;
> > +	bool shrink = flags & MEM_CGROUP_RECLAIM_SHRINK;
> > +	bool check_soft = flags & MEM_CGROUP_RECLAIM_SOFT;
> 
> `flags' wasn't a great choice of identifier.  It's a bit misleading,
> and you'll be in a pickle if you later try to add a
> spin_lock_irqsave(lock, flags) to this function.  Maybe choose a more
> specific name?

Yes.. good point, I should call it reclaim_options

> 
> > +	unsigned long excess = mem_cgroup_get_excess(root_mem);
> >  
> > -	while (loop < 2) {
> > +	while (1) {
> > +		if (loop >= 2) {
> > +			/*
> > +			 * With soft limits, do more targetted reclaim
> > +			 */
> > +			if (check_soft && (total >= (excess >> 4)))
> > +				break;
> > +			else if (!check_soft)
> > +				break;
> 
> maybe..
> 
> 			if (!check_soft)
> 				break;
> 			if (total >= (excess >> 4))
> 				break;
> 
> dunno.
> 
> The ">> 4" magic number would benefit from an explanatory comment.  Why
> not ">> 3"???
> 

Done.. will fix it.

> 
> > +		}
> >  		victim = mem_cgroup_select_victim(root_mem);
> > +		/*
> > +		 * In the first loop, don't reclaim from victims below
> > +		 * their soft limit
> > +		 */
> >
> > ...
> >
> > +unsigned long mem_cgroup_soft_limit_reclaim(struct zonelist *zl, gfp_t gfp_mask)
> > +{
> > +	unsigned long nr_reclaimed = 0;
> > +	struct mem_cgroup *mem;
> > +	unsigned long flags;
> > +	unsigned long reclaimed;
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * This loop can run a while, specially if mem_cgroup's continuously
> > +	 * keep exceeding their soft limit and putting the system under
> > +	 * pressure
> > +	 */
> > +	do {
> > +		mem = mem_cgroup_largest_soft_limit_node();
> > +		if (!mem)
> > +			break;
> > +
> > +		reclaimed = mem_cgroup_hierarchical_reclaim(mem, zl,
> > +						gfp_mask,
> > +						MEM_CGROUP_RECLAIM_SOFT);
> > +		nr_reclaimed += reclaimed;
> > +		spin_lock_irqsave(&memcg_soft_limit_tree_lock, flags);
> > +		mem->usage_in_excess = res_counter_soft_limit_excess(&mem->res);
> > +		__mem_cgroup_remove_exceeded(mem);
> > +		if (mem->usage_in_excess)
> > +			__mem_cgroup_insert_exceeded(mem);
> > +		spin_unlock_irqrestore(&memcg_soft_limit_tree_lock, flags);
> > +		css_put(&mem->css);
> > +		cond_resched();
> 
> spin_lock_irq() would suffice here.  Or the cond_resched() is a bug.
> 
> There's a decent argument that spin_lock_irq() is dangerous, and its
> saving is so small that it's better to use the more robust
> spin_lock_irqsave() all the time.  But was that the intent here?
>

spin_lock_irqsave allows more control over where the routine can be
called fromi (that does not matter right now, since we have just one
call path(. I could just use spin_lock_irq and that would be fine for
now. Like you said the benefits are really small.

cond_resched() can go away, I'll remove it.
 
> 
> > +	} while (!nr_reclaimed);
> > +	return nr_reclaimed;
> > +}
> 
> 

-- 
	Balbir

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-13  7:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-12 17:56 [PATCH 0/4] Memory controller soft limit patches (v5) Balbir Singh
2009-03-12 17:56 ` [PATCH 1/4] Memory controller soft limit documentation (v5) Balbir Singh
2009-03-12 17:56 ` [PATCH 2/4] Memory controller soft limit interface (v5) Balbir Singh
2009-03-12 22:59   ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-13  4:58     ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-12 17:56 ` [PATCH 3/4] Memory controller soft limit organize cgroups (v5) Balbir Singh
2009-03-12 23:04   ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-13  5:03     ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-13  0:47   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-13  5:04     ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-13  5:22       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-13  8:20         ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-13  6:59   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-13  7:09     ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-12 17:56 ` [PATCH 4/4] Memory controller soft limit reclaim on contention (v5) Balbir Singh
2009-03-12 23:34   ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-13  7:53     ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2009-03-13  1:36   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-13  4:13     ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-13  4:31       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-13  4:50         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-13  5:07           ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-13  6:54             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-13  7:03               ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-13  7:17                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-13  7:26                   ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-13  8:37                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-13  5:26           ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-13  5:34             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-13  4:58         ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-13  6:51   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-13  7:15     ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-13  8:41       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-13  7:02 ` [PATCH 0/4] Memory controller soft limit patches (v5) KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-13  7:07   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-13  7:15     ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-13  7:29       ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-13  7:18     ` Balbir Singh

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