From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: "linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
"kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com" <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 3/4] memcg: softlimit caller via kswapd
Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:52:41 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090311085241.1b893df0.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090310190242.GG26837@balbir.in.ibm.com>
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:32:42 +0530
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> * KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> [2009-03-09 16:42:18]:
>
> > From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> Looks like a dirty hack, replacing sc-> fields this way. I've
> experimented a lot with per zone balancing and soft limits and it does
> not work well. The reasons
>
> 1. zone watermark balancing has a different goal than soft limit. Soft
> limits are more of a mem cgroup feature rather than node/zone feature.
I can't catch what you want to say, here.
> IIRC, you called reclaim as hot-path for soft limit reclaim, my
> experimentation is beginning to show changed behaviour
>
> On a system with 4 CPUs and 4 Nodes, I find all CPUs spending time
> doing reclaim, putting the hook in the reclaim path, makes the reclaim
> dependent on the number of tasks and contention.
>
> What does your test data/experimentation show?
>
Not done very pricrse test but I admit that can happen.
(BTW, 1 cpu per 1 node ?)
How to call this is the my main concern, now.
BTW, when you don't use softlimit, CPUs won't spend time in reclaim ?
If 1 cpu per 1 node, 1 kswapd per 1 node. So, it doesn't sound strange.
If it's better to add a softlimitd() for the system (means 1 thread for
the whole system), modification is not difficult.
(I think my code doesn't assume the caller is kswapd() other than /* comment */)
Thanks,
-Kame
> > + scan -= sc->nr_scanned;
> > + }
> > + return;
> > +}
> > /*
> > * For kswapd, balance_pgdat() will work across all this node's zones until
> > * they are all at pages_high.
> > @@ -1776,6 +1813,8 @@ static unsigned long balance_pgdat(pg_da
> > */
> > int temp_priority[MAX_NR_ZONES];
> >
> > + /* Refill softlimit queue */
> > + mem_cgroup_reschedule(pgdat->node_id);
> > loop_again:
> > total_scanned = 0;
> > sc.nr_reclaimed = 0;
> > @@ -1856,6 +1895,9 @@ loop_again:
> > end_zone, 0))
> > all_zones_ok = 0;
> > temp_priority[i] = priority;
> > + /* Try soft limit at first */
> > + shrink_zone_softlimit(&sc, zone, order, priority,
> > + 8 * zone->pages_high, end_zone);
> > sc.nr_scanned = 0;
> > note_zone_scanning_priority(zone, priority);
> > /*
> >
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-10 23:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-09 7:37 [RFC][PATCH] memcg: softlimit (Another one) v3 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-09 7:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/4] memcg: add softlimit interface and utilitiy function KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-09 7:44 ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-09 7:55 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-09 8:48 ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-10 5:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-10 8:03 ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-10 8:31 ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-09 8:29 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-09 8:54 ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-09 9:07 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-09 7:41 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/4] memcg: softlimit priority and victim scheduler KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-09 7:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/4] memcg: softlimit caller via kswapd KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-10 19:02 ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-10 23:52 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2009-03-12 0:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-12 0:08 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-09 7:43 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/4] memcg: softlimit documenation KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
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