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From: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Sudhir Kumar <skumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	YAMAMOTO Takashi <yamamoto@valinux.co.jp>,
	Bharata B Rao <bharata@in.ibm.com>,
	Paul Menage <menage@google.com>,
	lizf@cn.fujitsu.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>,
	Dhaval Giani <dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Memory controller soft limit patches (v3)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:32:50 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090302143250.f47758f9.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090302044043.GC11421@balbir.in.ibm.com>

On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:10:43 +0530
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> * KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> [2009-03-02 09:24:04]:
> 
> > On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:59:59 +0530
> > Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > From: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

> > 
> > At first, it's said "When cgroup people adds something, the kernel gets slow".
> > This is my start point of reviewing. Below is comments to this version of patch.
> > 
> >  1. I think it's bad to add more hooks to res_counter. It's enough slow to give up
> >     adding more fancy things..
> 
> res_counters was desgined to be extensible, why is adding anything to
> it going to make it slow, unless we turn on soft_limits?
> 
You inserted new "if" logic in the core loop.
(What I want to say here is not that this is definitely bad but that "isn't there
 any alternatives which is less overhead.)


> > 
> >  2. please avoid to add hooks to hot-path. In your patch, especially a hook to
> >     mem_cgroup_uncharge_common() is annoying me.
> 
> If soft limits are not enabled, the function does a small check and
> leaves. 
> 
&soft_fail_res is passed always even if memory.soft_limit==ULONG_MAX
res_counter_soft_limit_excess() adds one more function call and spinlock, and irq-off.

> > 
> >  3. please avoid to use global spinlock more. 
> >     no lock is best. mutex is better, maybe.
> > 
> 
> No lock to update a tree which is update concurrently?
> 
Using tree/sort itself is nonsense, I believe.


> >  4. RB-tree seems broken. Following is example. (please note you do all ops
> >     in lazy manner (once in HZ/4.)
> > 
> >    i). while running, the tree is constructed as following
> > 
> >              R           R=exceed=300M
> >             / \ 
> >            A   B      A=exceed=200M  B=exceed=400M
> >    ii) A process B exits, but and usage goes down.
> 
> That is why we have the hook in uncharge. Even if we update and the
> usage goes down, the tree is ordered by usage_in_excess which is
> updated only when the tree is updated. So what you show below does not
> occur. I think I should document the design better.
> 

time_check==true. So, update-tree at uncharge() only happens once in HZ/4
==
@@ -1422,6 +1520,7 @@ __mem_cgroup_uncharge_common(struct page *page, enum charge_type ctype)
 	mz = page_cgroup_zoneinfo(pc);
 	unlock_page_cgroup(pc);
 
+	mem_cgroup_check_and_update_tree(mem, true);
 	/* at swapout, this memcg will be accessed to record to swap */
 	if (ctype != MEM_CGROUP_CHARGE_TYPE_SWAPOUT)
 		css_put(&mem->css);
==
Then, not-sorted RB-tree can be there.

BTW,
   time_after(jiffies, 0)
is buggy (see definition). If you want make this true always,
   time_after(jiffies, jiffies +1)

Thanks,
-Kame



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  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-02  5:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-01  6:29 Balbir Singh
2009-03-01  6:30 ` [PATCH 1/4] Memory controller soft limit documentation (v3) Balbir Singh
2009-03-01  6:30 ` [PATCH 2/4] Memory controller soft limit interface (v3) Balbir Singh
2009-03-02  2:03   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-02  4:46     ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-02  5:35       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-02  6:07         ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-02  6:19           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-02  6:29             ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-01  6:30 ` [PATCH 3/4] Memory controller soft limit organize cgroups (v3) Balbir Singh
2009-03-01  6:30 ` [PATCH 4/4] Memory controller soft limit reclaim on contention (v3) Balbir Singh
2009-03-02  3:08   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-02  4:44     ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-03  2:43       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-03 11:17         ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-04  0:07           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-03-02  0:24 ` [PATCH 0/4] Memory controller soft limit patches (v3) KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-02  4:40   ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-02  5:32     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki [this message]
2009-03-02  6:05       ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-02  6:18         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-02 17:52           ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-03  0:03             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-03 11:23               ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-02  6:21         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-02  6:36           ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-02  7:06             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-02  7:17               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-02 12:42               ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-02 14:04                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-02 17:41                   ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-02 23:59                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-03 11:12                       ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-03 11:50                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-03 13:14                           ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-05  9:04                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-05  9:13                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-05 15:26                           ` Balbir Singh
2009-03-05 23:53                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-06  3:23                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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