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From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	David Vrabel <david.vrabel@csr.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chas Williams <chas@cmf.nrl.navy.mil>,
	Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/7] slab: introduce kzfree()
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 02:07:52 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200902240207.53590.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0902231429360.28573@blonde.anvils>

On Tuesday 24 February 2009 01:51:05 Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > Well, the buffer is only non-modified in the case of one of the
> > allocators (SLAB). All others overwrite some of the data region
> > with their own metadata.
> >
> > I think it is OK to use const, though. Because k(z)free has the
> > knowledge that the data will not be touched by the caller any
> > longer.
>
> Sorry, you're not adding anything new to the thread here.
>
> Yes, the caller is surrendering the buffer, so we can get
> away with calling the argument const; and Linus argues that's
> helpful in the case of kfree (to allow passing a const pointer
> without having to cast it).

(Yes, not that I agree his argument is strong enough to be able
to call libc's definition wrong)

> My contention is that kzfree(const void *ptr) is nonsensical
> because it says please zero this buffer without modifying it.
>
> But the change has gone in, I seem to be the only one still
> bothered by it, and I've conceded that the "z" might stand
> for zap rather than zero.
>
> So it may be saying please hide the contents of this buffer,
> rather than please zero it.  And then it can be argued that
> the modification is an implementation detail which happens
> (like other housekeeping internal to the sl?b allocator)
> only after the original buffer has been freed.
>
> Philosophy.

Hmm, well it better if kzfree is defined to zap rather than zero
anyway. zap is a better definition because it theoretically allows
the implementation to do something else (poision it with some
other value; mark it as zapped and don't reallocate it without
zeroing it; etc). And also it doesn't imply that the caller still
cares about what it actually gets filled with.


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  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-23 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-17 18:26 [patch 0/7] kzfree() v2 Johannes Weiner
2009-02-17 18:26 ` [patch 1/7] slab: introduce kzfree() Johannes Weiner
2009-02-17 20:06   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-18 10:50   ` David Vrabel
2009-02-18 10:54     ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-19  1:22       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-19  9:13         ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-19 12:12           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-19 16:34           ` Hugh Dickins
2009-02-19 18:02             ` Matt Mackall
2009-02-19 18:28               ` Hugh Dickins
2009-02-19 19:45                 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-19 20:36                   ` Hugh Dickins
2009-02-23 14:01                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-23 14:51                       ` Hugh Dickins
2009-02-23 15:07                         ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-02-23 19:42                         ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-19 19:48                 ` Johannes Weiner
2009-02-17 18:26 ` [patch 2/7] crypto: use kzfree() Johannes Weiner
2009-02-20  4:53   ` Herbert Xu
2009-02-17 18:26 ` [patch 3/7] s390: " Johannes Weiner
2009-02-17 18:26 ` [patch 4/7] md: " Johannes Weiner
2009-02-17 18:26 ` [patch 5/7] usb: " Johannes Weiner
2009-02-18 10:51   ` David Vrabel
2009-02-17 18:26 ` [patch 6/7] cifs: " Johannes Weiner
2009-02-17 18:26 ` [patch 7/7] ecryptfs: " Johannes Weiner

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