From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
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Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
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Lin Ming <ming.m.lin@intel.com>,
Zhang Yanmin <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 20/20] Get rid of the concept of hot/cold page freeing
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:30:30 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090223233030.GA26562@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090223013723.1d8f11c1.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 01:37:23AM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:17:29 +0000 Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:
>
> > Currently an effort is made to determine if a page is hot or cold when
> > it is being freed so that cache hot pages can be allocated to callers if
> > possible. However, the reasoning used whether to mark something hot or
> > cold is a bit spurious. A profile run of kernbench showed that "cold"
> > pages were never freed so it either doesn't happen generally or is so
> > rare, it's barely measurable.
> >
> > It's dubious as to whether pages are being correctly marked hot and cold
> > anyway. Things like page cache and pages being truncated are are considered
> > "hot" but there is no guarantee that these pages have been recently used
> > and are cache hot. Pages being reclaimed from the LRU are considered
> > cold which is logical because they cannot have been referenced recently
> > but if the system is reclaiming pages, then we have entered allocator
> > slowpaths and are not going to notice any potential performance boost
> > because a "hot" page was freed.
> >
> > This patch just deletes the concept of freeing hot or cold pages and
> > just frees them all as hot.
> >
>
> Well yes. We waffled for months over whether to merge that code originally.
>
> What tipped the balance was a dopey microbenchmark which I wrote which
> sat in a loop extending (via write()) and then truncating the same file
> by 32 kbytes (or thereabouts). Its performance was increased by a lot
> (2x or more, iirc) and no actual regressions were demonstrable, so we
> merged it.
>
> Could you check that please? I'd suggest trying various values of 32k,
> too.
>
I dug around the archives but hadn't much luck finding the original
discussion. I saw some results from around the 2.5.40-mm timeframe that talked
about ~60% difference with this benchmark (http://lkml.org/lkml/2002/10/6/174)
but didn't find the source. The more solid benchmark reports was
https://lwn.net/Articles/14761/ where you talked about 1-2% kernel compile
improvements, good SpecWEB and a big hike on performance with SDET.
It's not clearcut. I tried reproducing your original benchmark rather than
whinging about not finding yours :) . The source is below so maybe you can
tell me if it's equivalent? I only ran it on one CPU which also may be a
factor. The results were
size with without difference
64 0.216033 0.558803 -158.67%
128 0.158551 0.150673 4.97%
256 0.153240 0.153488 -0.16%
512 0.156502 0.158769 -1.45%
1024 0.162146 0.163302 -0.71%
2048 0.167001 0.169573 -1.54%
4096 0.175376 0.178882 -2.00%
8192 0.237618 0.243385 -2.43%
16384 0.735053 0.351040 52.24%
32768 0.524731 0.583863 -11.27%
65536 1.149310 1.227855 -6.83%
131072 2.160248 2.084981 3.48%
262144 3.858264 4.046389 -4.88%
524288 8.228358 8.259957 -0.38%
1048576 16.228190 16.288308 -0.37%
with == Using hot/cold information to place pages at the front or end of
the freelist
without == Consider all pages being freed as hot
The results are a bit all over the place but mostly negative but nowhere near
60% of a difference so the benchmark might be wrong. Oddly, 64 shows massive
regressions but 16384 shows massive improvements. With profiling enabled, it's
64 0.214873 0.196666 8.47%
128 0.166807 0.162612 2.51%
256 0.170776 0.161861 5.22%
512 0.175772 0.164903 6.18%
1024 0.178835 0.168695 5.67%
2048 0.183769 0.174317 5.14%
4096 0.191877 0.183343 4.45%
8192 0.262511 0.254148 3.19%
16384 0.388201 0.371461 4.31%
32768 0.655402 0.611528 6.69%
65536 1.325445 1.193961 9.92%
131072 2.218135 2.209091 0.41%
262144 4.117233 4.116681 0.01%
524288 8.514915 8.590700 -0.89%
1048576 16.657330 16.708367 -0.31%
Almost the opposite with steady improvements almost all the way through.
With the patch applied, we are still using hot/cold information on the
allocation side so I'm somewhat surprised the patch even makes much of a
difference. I'd have expected the pages being freed to be mostly hot.
Kernbench was no help figuring this out either.
with: Elapsed: 74.1625s User: 253.85s System: 27.1s CPU: 378.5%
without: Elapsed: 74.0525s User: 252.9s System: 27.3675s CPU: 378.25%
Improvements on elapsed and user time but a regression on system time.
The issue is sufficiently cloudy that I'm just going to drop the patch
for now. Hopefully the rest of the patchset is more clear-cut. I'll pick
it up again at a later time.
Here is the microbenchmark I used
Thanks.
/*
* write-truncate.c
* Microbenchmark that tests the speed of write/truncate of small files.
*
* Suggested by Andrew Morton
* Written by Mel Gorman 2009
*/
#include <stdio.h>
#include <limits.h>
#include <unistd.h>
#include <sys/types.h>
#include <sys/time.h>
#include <fcntl.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <string.h>
#define TESTFILE "./write-truncate-testfile.dat"
#define ITERATIONS 10000
#define STARTSIZE 32
#define SIZES 15
#ifndef MIN
#define MIN(x,y) ((x)<(y)?(x):(y))
#endif
#ifndef MAX
#define MAX(x,y) ((x)>(y)?(x):(y))
#endif
double whattime()
{
struct timeval tp;
int i;
if (gettimeofday(&tp,NULL) == -1) {
perror("gettimeofday");
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
}
return ( (double) tp.tv_sec + (double) tp.tv_usec * 1.e-6 );
}
int main(void)
{
int fd;
int bufsize, sizes, iteration;
char *buf;
double t;
/* Create test file */
fd = open(TESTFILE, O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_EXCL);
if (fd == -1) {
perror("open");
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
}
/* Unlink now for cleanup */
if (unlink(TESTFILE) == -1) {
perror("unlinke");
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
}
/* Go through a series of sizes */
bufsize = STARTSIZE;
for (sizes = 1; sizes <= SIZES; sizes++) {
bufsize *= 2;
buf = malloc(bufsize);
if (buf == NULL) {
printf("ERROR: Malloc failed\n");
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
}
memset(buf, 0xE0, bufsize);
t = whattime();
for (iteration = 0; iteration < ITERATIONS; iteration++) {
size_t written = 0, thiswrite;
while (written != bufsize) {
thiswrite = write(fd, buf, bufsize);
if (thiswrite == -1) {
perror("write");
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
}
written += thiswrite;
}
if (ftruncate(fd, 0) == -1) {
perror("ftruncate");
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
}
if (lseek(fd, 0, SEEK_SET) != 0) {
perror("lseek");
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
}
}
t = whattime() - t;
free(buf);
printf("%d %f\n", bufsize, t);
}
if (close(fd) == -1) {
perror("close");
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
}
exit(EXIT_SUCCESS);
}
--
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick IBM Dublin Software Lab
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Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-22 23:17 [RFC PATCH 00/20] Cleanup and optimise the page allocator Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 01/20] Replace __alloc_pages_internal() with __alloc_pages_nodemask() Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 02/20] Do not sanity check order in the fast path Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 03/20] Do not check NUMA node ID when the caller knows the node is valid Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 15:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-23 16:24 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 04/20] Convert gfp_zone() to use a table of precalculated values Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 11:55 ` [PATCH] mm: clean up __GFP_* flags a bit Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 18:01 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 20:27 ` Vegard Nossum
2009-02-23 15:23 ` [PATCH 04/20] Convert gfp_zone() to use a table of precalculated values Christoph Lameter
2009-02-23 15:41 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-23 15:43 ` [PATCH 04/20] Convert gfp_zone() to use a table of precalculated value Christoph Lameter
2009-02-23 16:40 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 17:03 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-24 1:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-02-24 3:59 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-24 5:20 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-02-24 11:36 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 16:33 ` [PATCH 04/20] Convert gfp_zone() to use a table of precalculated values Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 16:33 ` [PATCH 04/20] Convert gfp_zone() to use a table of precalculated value Christoph Lameter
2009-02-23 17:41 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 05/20] Check only once if the zonelist is suitable for the allocation Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 06/20] Break up the allocator entry point into fast and slow paths Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 07/20] Simplify the check on whether cpusets are a factor or not Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 7:14 ` Pekka J Enberg
2009-02-23 9:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 9:13 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-23 11:39 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 13:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-23 9:14 ` Li Zefan
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 08/20] Move check for disabled anti-fragmentation out of fastpath Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 09/20] Calculate the preferred zone for allocation only once Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 10/20] Calculate the migratetype " Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 11/20] Inline get_page_from_freelist() in the fast-path Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 7:21 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-23 11:42 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 15:32 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-24 13:32 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-24 14:08 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-24 15:03 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 12/20] Inline __rmqueue_smallest() Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 13/20] Inline buffered_rmqueue() Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 7:24 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-23 11:44 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 14/20] Do not call get_pageblock_migratetype() more than necessary Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 15/20] Do not disable interrupts in free_page_mlock() Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 9:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 12:23 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 12:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 14:25 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 16/20] Do not setup zonelist cache when there is only one node Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 17/20] Do not double sanity check page attributes during allocation Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 18/20] Split per-cpu list into one-list-per-migrate-type Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 19/20] Batch free pages from migratetype per-cpu lists Mel Gorman
2009-02-22 23:17 ` [PATCH 20/20] Get rid of the concept of hot/cold page freeing Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 9:37 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-23 23:30 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2009-02-23 23:53 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-24 11:51 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-25 0:01 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-25 16:01 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-25 16:19 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-26 16:37 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-26 17:00 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-26 17:15 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-26 17:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-27 11:33 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-27 15:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-03-03 13:52 ` Mel Gorman
2009-03-03 18:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-27 11:38 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-01 10:37 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-25 18:33 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-02-22 23:57 ` [RFC PATCH 00/20] Cleanup and optimise the page allocator Andi Kleen
2009-02-23 12:34 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 15:34 ` [RFC PATCH 00/20] Cleanup and optimise the page allocato Christoph Lameter
2009-02-23 0:02 ` [RFC PATCH 00/20] Cleanup and optimise the page allocator Andi Kleen
2009-02-23 14:32 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 17:49 ` Andi Kleen
2009-02-24 14:32 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 7:29 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-23 8:34 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2009-02-23 9:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2009-02-23 11:55 ` [PATCH] mm: gfp_to_alloc_flags() Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 14:00 ` Pekka Enberg
2009-02-23 18:17 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 20:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 22:59 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-24 8:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-23 14:38 ` [RFC PATCH 00/20] Cleanup and optimise the page allocator Christoph Lameter
2009-02-23 14:46 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-23 15:00 ` Mel Gorman
2009-02-23 15:22 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-23 20:26 ` Mel Gorman
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